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originally posted by: Astyanax
Has anyone on this thread actually been promoting war?
originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: jessme2
or why don't we find a way to stop those who think they own it in the first place?
Tell that to starving people of countries that DO own it. Just a thought.
I'm going to share a bit of history. Some will only look at it as myth or the ramblings of the intellectually imbalanced. But non the less, recorded. History is full of stories of people showing up under mysterious circumstances, influence society, then vanish one way or another. Enoch is probably the first documented case.
Who created those institutions?
Over the next ten years, the pair delved headlong into contacting angels—and either Kelley ran a decade-long confidence game on Dee, or they indeed made contact with “something.” Either way, the spirit diaries that survive—dug up in a field ten years after Dee’s death—contain not only prose that rivals Shakespeare and Joyce, but a completely new language, with its own grammar and syntax.
Dee would perform ritual invocations of the angels, and Kelley would stare into a scrying mirror or crystal ball, wherein a series of angels appeared, transmitting prophecies, instructions and furious pronouncements on the spiritual nature of mankind. The angels were not charitable. Raging at the fallen state of humanity, who have only become progressively worse since being sent East of Eden, they consistently liken humans to “harlots”—not in the sexual sense, but in the sense that they weakly allow their attentions to be captivated by literally anything except God. Over years of Actions, the angels described the ordering of the cosmos; a series of instructions for ritual invocations; predictions of apocalypse and events to come in European politics; and, finally, the Angelic or “Enochian” language, which they explained was the ur-language of humanity, spoken before the Fall of Adam.
As St. Augustine observed 1,500 years ago, the fallen nature of mankind is revealed in the behaviour of babes and sucklings. I am not religious, but biology agrees with the good father. We are born all the things you mention, as well as their opposites. We are human. We are capable of anything.
Whoever they were, were they not human?
Now, you yourself advocate that which you say you despise. I imagine the "Humans" would fight because that is in line with their animistic tendencies. A human being would stop and try to determine what causes the hostilities and rectify it without bloodshed.
Have you ever been a conscientious objector? Would you be one if there was a war? Would you fight back if the government were to oppress you?
I was tempted to put this in the same fashion you ended your post, but instead Ill say this, We are all not humans. Go in peace.
We are human
But then, how else can the low popularity of this thread be explained?
The Rich. The Rich create, War. They don't fight in it.
originally posted by: Astyanax
This should make it evident to you that most people don't think of war as the 'real enemy of mankind'. They think of it as the work of 'the real enemies of mankind'.