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'Vile and depraved' UK gang raped and abused babies

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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:18 AM
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How does one present information like this?

Those pictured have been found guilty of a conspiracy to groom the families of, and then gang rape/sexually abuse the youngest of children.



They were part of an "organised paedophile network" with "tentacles around the world" that arranged the rape of young children, some of them babies.


Under two years old in some case.




One member even developed a relationship with a pregnant woman "with the sole intention" of abusing her baby after its birth.


And then to stream it over the internet to paying customers.




a jury convicted former actor Denham, 49, from Wiltshire - previously known as Benjamin Harrop - of conspiracy to sexually assault a child under 13.
Stansfield, 34, from Hampshire, was found guilty of conspiracy to rape a child under 13. Denham was cleared of the same charge.
Five others pleaded guilty to offences including rape of a child and conspiracy to rape at an earlier hearing. They are:
Robin Hollyson, 30, from Bedfordshire
Christopher Knight, 35, from Manchester
David Harsley, 51, from Hull
Matthew Lisk, 32, from East Sussex
Adam Toms, 33, from Somerset
A date is yet to be set for their sentencing.
The investigation identified three victims - a baby, a toddler and a young child - who were raped and assaulted by the men who had gained the trust of unsuspecting parents.


Video Conferencing software was used to plan and at times stream the abuse.

These people had no limits it seems, and perhaps their actions would have developed even further if they had not finally been stopped:



The gang also discussed the drugging of children and used video conferencing websites to broadcast the abuse to fellow members.





Despite the men's efforts to destroy evidence, police were able to retrieve webchats where the gang discussed their plans, with comments such as "I'm really in to v.v. young", and "sicker the better".


And one of these is a father.

Apologies for the many quotes. The material is just so horrific and stark that it seems trite to just rephrase what i'm reading from the source.

These people were part of something bigger, whether a loose affiliation of international creators and purveyors of child abuse or a more organised group.




Material which could lead to the arrest of other paedophiles has been sent to police abroad, via Europol, to north America, South America, Scandinavia, Australia and Africa.


Words fail me right now really. Of course i know that stuff like this happens, and i've worked with the victims of such abuse in the past. It just never fails to hit me deep inside when the depravity of some folk and their will to exploit and ravage the most vulnerable is laid so open.


BBC Source 1

BBC Source 2

I saw this on the TV News over the past couple of days, but it was a bit trickier to browse for reports when i did not know the details (ie: locale).


So today.....

It's not on Yahoo UK's front page, or the front page of their news section.

It's not on the BBC front page

It did have a related report on MSN via SKy.

Maybe i'm reading too much into it from my scant time looking for sources, but this news seems like it should hang around a little longer, be in our faces a bit more.

Isn't it outrageous enough what these men did?

Or are they just from the wrong demographic?
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:25 AM
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I clicked to check out if these were UK politicians, maybe ( probably) connected.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:29 AM
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a reply to: w8tn4it

They are just your "average" working folk - your colleague, neighbour, maybe the dad of your son's best mate at school.

I do wonder if we are likely to find out who they shared their streamed child abuse with.

I'd guess we would only ever see an edited list.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:45 AM
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a reply to: skalla

Yup, sadly you don't need to be in the "establishment" to be a sick pervert - my fiancée's father is a convicted child sex offender and you wouldn't know it looking at him. "Normal" looking bloke, works as a delivery driver so he could well be turning up on your doorstep to deliver that package from Amazon and you'd be none the wiser.

Needless to say, when I found out about his past, he was swiftly banned from any contact with my children. Oddly, though, my partners mother knew about his abuse (he was convicted in the early 1980's) and took him back when he was released and had two more children with him!. I'll have nothing to do with either of them now, but it goes to show that seemingly "average" people get up to some sick, twisted crap behind those closed doors.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: skalla

While at the core i am against capitol punishment i occasionally find that i can look the other way . This is one of them times .
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:48 AM
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originally posted by: w8tn4it
I clicked to check out if these were UK politicians, maybe ( probably) connected.


This seems to be the only reason when people are really interested in these things these days. You yourself being a prime example.


"No politicians involved? No real interest in it then."
"Clicked on it accidentally because i thought politicians are involved -moves on-"

It explains the lack of media coverage aswell. Not enough sensational headlines like "high level politicians suspect in pedo case". The media bombarded people with "regular" pedo cases and constantly instilling fear about it into people that by now everyone is so desensitized that we at least need a juicy "politicians are involved" angle before people even want to click a thread on ATS, preferbly with a satanic cult angle to work the fear effect to a broader audience.





S&F btw
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: stumason

a reply to: everyone

Indeed.. i have not seen much in the way of TV or Web news over the last couple of days - just a little "background noise" while busy with other stuff, and i heard the story a few times on national tv yesterday. So it has been reported, but with the (rightly) massive coverage of Rotherham as a prime example, and then to too-ing and fro-ing over Lord Janner which has been very widely covered (and he is arguably a convenient sacrificial lamb) it seems to me that our average white men should have been publicised as widely?

Not salacious enough for some i guess.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: w8tn4it
I clicked to check out if these were UK politicians, maybe ( probably) connected.


I think you are trivialising this awful story. Would you have been happier for this abuse to have been carried out by a politician. That seems your only disappointment.

I abhor any form of abuse and child abuse like this does not get any worse. Very sad. Very pleased that the perpetrators for these crimes will now spend a long time behind bars. I wonder how much forensic evidence was recovered from ISPs who must be able can trace internet activity in some way, and whether there was a wider international dimension to which will result in other gangs being caught.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 06:04 AM
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They gave up the right to live on this rock.

Stick them on shark island or against bears in the wild.
Let a Real animal play with them!



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 06:53 AM
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Put them in cages, and use them for animal testing.
Simples.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: skalla

To be able to do such a thing to babies and little children is beyond redemption.


The dirty beasts will probably receive between 4-8 years Gaol time a piece, and be out in 2-4 years. Then they will be supervised for a further period of time.


If there were any real justice in this country they would be housed with the rest of the general prison population and found hung in there cell and/or with their wrists slashed shortly soon after.
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 07:03 AM
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Parachute them over an ISIS camp.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 07:06 AM
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a reply to: CJCrawley

Chance would indeed be a fine thing! If they were dropped off over an ISIS camp i hope they chop the head off another part of there anatomy before the main show.
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 07:10 AM
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This sort of thing is what's sending this planet into a black hole towards hell.


Not just the actions of these nonces...


But also the silence of others...


& the lack of punishment from authority...




All across the board there are wrongdoers in these situations...


They should be waterboarded in our very own Guantanamo Bay facilities for Paedo Cell information...

If these guys planned to blow up a supermarket it would happen...



But no all they did was abuse babies, let's give them a new identity after a minimal stay in a segregated area from the "real criminals"...



I could spit at my phone I'm so disgusted...

F# you & die!!!



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 07:26 AM
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A little OT but thought this may be of interest

www.channel4.com...

This programme was broadcast several months ago about a vigilante paedophile hunter who sets up "stings" and entraps paedophiles intending to groom/abuse young children.

I believe there other groups operating in the UK as well (Dark Justice). Obviously there are some huge moral questions surrounding this vigilante behaviour, and he has been much criticised by the police, but he has been able to provide some evidence that has secured at least one conviction.

The sheer scale of the paedophilia being reported atm in the UK (not just politicians and old celebs) is terrifying, and like other posters have stated, its ordinary-looking people - and that's just what does get reported to the police and subsequently to the media.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: skalla

Is it pretty sick!

I saw one headline yesterday on skynews... read the story and was pretty disgusted with it.

Sadly the Internet has attracted all kinds of evil and I can imagine there's a lot more out there..

We need population reduction and these types of nasties should be first to go IMO
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: everyone

The difference being that these sick f**ks will be brought to justice, but the sick f**ks in parliament won't. Ever.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: skalla

Even the NCA said they had never seen anything this depraved and they are the specialists that always see the worst. There seems to be so many of these cases over the last 5-10 years you almost don't know where to start.

I suppose the only good thing is that such a large number of cases are now being brought to light. Modern technology is enabling convictions in large numbers with many active members of rings brought down at once, whereas this was always tricky before things like IP adresses, etc.

I am always wary in cases like these until convictions occur. However, once convicted (as these scumbags thankfully are) does anyone else favour the idea of parachuting them into IS lands with paedo placards stapled to them?

ETA:

Sorry to add i did the unforgiveable of posting without all reading all the replies. Sorry (looking sheepishly at exit).......


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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: skalla

While at the core i am against capitol punishment i occasionally find that i can look the other way . This is one of them times .


Agree, the weapon in this crime should be nailed to a tree. Hand him an axe. He could stand there indefinitely nailed to a tree or use the axe......his choice.

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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: Flavian
I am always wary in cases like these until convictions occur. However, once convicted (as these scumbags thankfully are) does anyone else favour the idea of parachuting them into IS lands with paedo placards stapled to them?


I think they would be welcomed by ISIS, so hardly a punishment. After all, ISIS atrocities against women and girls are well documented, and there's this...


It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine. Most pure girls will be married by 16 or 17, while they are still young and active.


The Guardian source

I have to say that I don't advocate capital punishment, but I don't expect these people will get off lightly.



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