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Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: Nochzwei
What do you not understand?Go ahd and elaborate which equations from GR are used for GPS and space flight.
Don't we use Newtons equations for space flight?
For a GPS satellite sending a signal to a receiver there is a correction factor that Einstein showed would be needed because clocks at different points in a gravitational field run differently.
It doesn't involve any of the geometry tensor's, it's just a simple algebraic relationship that has been tested many times involving velocity and c. Similar to most of the math in the other relativity, Special relativity.
If you do dispute GR which of the 2 main laws do you dispute? Do you know the 2 laws? They both have mathematical expressions(s) but also a simple name and a simple explanation for each.
originally posted by: AthlonSavage
The E = mc square formula is in a truest sense a relativist formula. You can look at it and say to accelerate an object to speed of light you need infinite energy, and hence the idea the mass is expanding as speed increases toward light speed.
OR
you can look it as the other way round. That the Mass property descreases as an object approaches speed of light and therefore does not require an impossible energy requirement. The mass in other words shrinks to a size magnitudes smaller than what it as at its Relative start point. I believe it is this one as the correct interpretation as it lines up with the experimental observation there are small atomic particles moving through the space we occupy and it also allows explain the phenomenon of Ufos.
I think we may of been sold the first story for good reason to make us believe the world we live in has distinctive limits/barriers we cant break, which not unsurprising is the mindset which needs to be taught to cattle people.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: Nochzwei
What do you not understand?Go ahd and elaborate which equations from GR are used for GPS and space flight.
Don't we use Newtons equations for space flight?
For a GPS satellite sending a signal to a receiver there is a correction factor that Einstein showed would be needed because clocks at different points in a gravitational field run differently.
It doesn't involve any of the geometry tensor's, it's just a simple algebraic relationship that has been tested many times involving velocity and c. Similar to most of the math in the other relativity, Special relativity.
If you do dispute GR which of the 2 main laws do you dispute? Do you know the 2 laws? They both have mathematical expressions(s) but also a simple name and a simple explanation for each.
Game? Yeah right,
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: Nochzwei
What do you not understand?Go ahd and elaborate which equations from GR are used for GPS and space flight.
Don't we use Newtons equations for space flight?
For a GPS satellite sending a signal to a receiver there is a correction factor that Einstein showed would be needed because clocks at different points in a gravitational field run differently.
It doesn't involve any of the geometry tensor's, it's just a simple algebraic relationship that has been tested many times involving velocity and c. Similar to most of the math in the other relativity, Special relativity.
If you do dispute GR which of the 2 main laws do you dispute? Do you know the 2 laws? They both have mathematical expressions(s) but also a simple name and a simple explanation for each.
yeah, no one is going to waste their time playing your game buddy.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Game? Yeah right,
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: Nochzwei
What do you not understand?Go ahd and elaborate which equations from GR are used for GPS and space flight.
Don't we use Newtons equations for space flight?
For a GPS satellite sending a signal to a receiver there is a correction factor that Einstein showed would be needed because clocks at different points in a gravitational field run differently.
It doesn't involve any of the geometry tensor's, it's just a simple algebraic relationship that has been tested many times involving velocity and c. Similar to most of the math in the other relativity, Special relativity.
If you do dispute GR which of the 2 main laws do you dispute? Do you know the 2 laws? They both have mathematical expressions(s) but also a simple name and a simple explanation for each.
yeah, no one is going to waste their time playing your game buddy.
Put your money where your mouth is buddy. Go ahd and answer the questions, if you can, since you made similar claims, isn't it. I am an engineer and need something solid and not some flimsy talk in the air
originally posted by: darkorange
a reply to: mbkennel
Ok, thanks for insiders.
What keeps the energy once released a substance when we know photon has no mass?
In other words, once photon has been emitted what keeps it as concealed particle while it travels?
Why you ascribe light as a flux of individual particles?
How come the light constitutes flux of individual packets of energy?
How come those individual packets of energy held together when my eyes 'sees them'?
Thread is about the title and scientist being warned from denying Einstein's gr. so read the thread and your posts and back up your claims as asked, otherwise what you have been posting in this thread, is all bunk
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Game? Yeah right,
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: Nochzwei
What do you not understand?Go ahd and elaborate which equations from GR are used for GPS and space flight.
Don't we use Newtons equations for space flight?
For a GPS satellite sending a signal to a receiver there is a correction factor that Einstein showed would be needed because clocks at different points in a gravitational field run differently.
It doesn't involve any of the geometry tensor's, it's just a simple algebraic relationship that has been tested many times involving velocity and c. Similar to most of the math in the other relativity, Special relativity.
If you do dispute GR which of the 2 main laws do you dispute? Do you know the 2 laws? They both have mathematical expressions(s) but also a simple name and a simple explanation for each.
yeah, no one is going to waste their time playing your game buddy.
Put your money where your mouth is buddy. Go ahd and answer the questions, if you can, since you made similar claims, isn't it. I am an engineer and need something solid and not some flimsy talk in the air
If it isn't a game the back up your extraordinary claims. Mine are backed up by GPS satellites and caesium clocks proving time dilation.
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Weareone,
This is not how science works. Science is open to anyone. You are 100% wrong
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Imagine my surprise when I found on the internet, some notable scientists have been warned against denying GR. So it Seems there is definitely some reason to keep the GR dogma alive by the ptb, whether of this earth entirely or otherwise.
www.anti-relativity.com...
Visit the link, an interesting read indeed.
Even on a conspiracy forum, you've got to cite some evidence to support your conspiratorial claims. Even the 911 truthers did that, though it wasn't very good evidence, but at least they tried.
originally posted by: WeAre0ne
What I am telling you seems hard for you to grasp, which is confusing to me, because you would think on a conspiracy minded forum you people would understand.
Read the thread in my signature about bending or unbending of space.
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Go Ahd and put these equations in a post and values applied to obtain gps correction and if indeed these equations are used for space flight, then the values to these as well( pick any fictional or known space flight )
Why? Is there some part of basic time dilation equations you don't agree with? Take t = t* sqrt(1-(2GM/Rc^2)) or one for Earth's surface dilation and plug in your own numbers. (2GR/c^2) If GR is wrong then say where it's wrong?! I could go to any physics site and get those equations with values? There are explanations and examples of these GR corrections for GPS all over the place. And you do not need space flight examples, there is a paper online explaining how a clock up on a TOWER runs faster? Do you need source material from experts? I'm fine with posting links to published papers.
You did not answer my question either, which postulate of GR do you disagree with?
There are corrections for low satellites and corrections for high satellites. Different theories are involved so you need to be more specific.
originally posted by: WeAre0ne
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Weareone,
This is not how science works. Science is open to anyone. You are 100% wrong
No, not all science is open to anyone. You guys really have no idea what goes on outside of public domain... its quite funny.
originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: GetHyped
You guys have no idea what you are talking about. There is a whole other scientific world out there that you have no clue about. Hidden from the public eye.
That mainstream BS from universities and your friendly neighborhood scientists is like 100 years behind. As much as you may think it is current cutting edge science, it's not.
I know what you are thinking... Let me tell you, "peer review" is the most damaging aspect to mainstream and current science ever. You may laugh at that, because on the surface peer review seems like a good idea. But the reality is, many huge scientific breakthroughs have been missed and completely abandoned because some peer review discredited certain theories to a point where they were discarded all together.
What I am telling you seems hard for you to grasp, which is confusing to me, because you would think on a conspiracy minded forum you people would understand.