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Putin Warns Israel

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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 02:02 AM
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Putin Warns Israel: Don't Arm Ukraine

The Hill and The Jerusalem Post have also reported this story.



After a bold move in Russia’s decision to arm Iran with S-300 missiles, President Putin gave a firm message to Israel, in the form of a warning, that they should avoid arming Ukraine with lethal weapons in retaliation for the action.

Putin told the state-run media on Saturday:

“It’s the Israeli leadership’s choice. It’s their right to do what they think is appropriate. If this is lethal weapons, I think it will be counterproductive. It will only lead to another round of conflicts, to a rise in the number of victims, and the outcome will be the same.”


This leads many to believe that the Israeli Government, may be considering a notion to arm Ukraine with lethal weapons, in response to Iran obtaining more advanced missiles from Russia, which could be used against the Jewish nation.

According to the West, in recent years Iran has made attempts to develop nuclear weapons, so that Israel can be “Wiped off the map“, as stated by Iran’s President at the time.

For this reason and others, Israel considers Iran a grave threat to their National security, and may use the promise of arming Ukraine, as an attempt to force Moscow into reconsidering their move to provide weapons to their enemy.

In Israel, the Prime Minister’s Office and the Defense Ministry had no response to the report. Israel has been upset by Russia’s decision last week to lift its five-year ban on the sale of the S-300 anti-missile system to Iran and to deliver those weapons by the end of 2015.
-Jerusalem Post

This takes place after the U.S. began penalizing Russia through the use of sanctions, along with a military buildup in the Baltics, for Putin’s destabilizing actions taking place in Ukraine. Since this time, we have seen escalating tensions between Russia and the West, that haven’t been seen since the great cold war that took place late last century.

The United States recently deployed several hundred troops to Ukraine, to aid in the training of the former Soviet member’s military. Canada has stated that it will send an additional 200 troops this Summer, in an attempt to support this effort.

Recently, Iran also made a statement on its state-run media, that it is deploying an armada of ships to Yemen, which the U.S. fears may be used in an attempt to break through a naval blockade that is being enforced by Saudi Arabia, to supply arms to rebels fighters in Yemen.


The Hill and The Jerusalem Post have also reported this story.
edit on 19-4-2015 by JonStone because: (no reason given)



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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 03:15 AM
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a reply to: JonStone

Maybe the US should take away the missile shield in Europe first, which was supposed to be against Iranian missiles before the US/Israeli cartel can start to whine about it...


...and after an Georgian army, which was supplied also with Israeli weaponry, provoked war with Russia in `08, Russia has every right to speak out about arming another neighbour with a government who openly talks about wanting war with Russia.

The hypocrisy of it all is astounding yet again.


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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 03:19 AM
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*** "Wiped off the map“, as stated by Iran’s President at the time. ***

When is this lie going to stop?



Overall...

Didn't seem like a warning as such.
More advisory than anything else imo.


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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 03:25 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
*** "Wiped off the map“, as stated by Iran’s President at the time. ***

When is this lie going to stop?



Overall...

Didn't seem like a warning as such.
More advisory than anything else imo.


it helps cover up the fact that the only country being wiped off the map in the region is Palestine



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: JonStone

Obama ‘surprised’ Putin held back this long on S-300 supply to Iran



Obama noted that Putin had previously suspended the sale “at our request. I am frankly surprised that it held this long, given that they were not prohibited by sanctions from selling these defensive weapons.”

Obama also said he’ll sign legislation expected to pass the Senate and House giving Congress a say on a final deal. He called it a “reasonable compromise.”

The legislation would block Obama from waiving congressional sanctions against Iran for at least 30 days after any final agreement. That would give lawmakers time to weigh in.



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: JonStone

Russia supplied Iran with DEFENSIVE AIR SYSTEM

If Israel wants to supply Ukraine with Defensive only system that can't be used for any kind of attack

Then they can go ahead but knowing zionists they will Supply Ukraine with everything except nukes
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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 04:32 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
it helps cover up the fact that the only country being wiped off the map in the region is Palestine


Precisely
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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 05:44 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien
fully agree!




posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: JonStone




...in response to Iran obtaining more advanced missiles from Russia, which could be used against the Jewish nation.


Used against the Jewish nation?

The S-300 is a defensive weapon, not an offensive weapon.

It would only be used against 'the Jewish nation' while that Jewish nation was attacking Iran...or does the Jewish nation have the sole right to defend itself?


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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: JonStone

Lol wow, there sure are a lot of isreal bashing prorussian folks all in one place.

Too bad I had to show up to ruin all the back patting and gleeful smiles.

First most, not all of you guys are batstuff crazy.

Isreal has not once launched a preemptive strike against the imaginary nation of Palestine.

They have suffered prolonged attacks sometimes for years before they counterattack.

Don't even throw out the lame isreal attacks hospitals, or the Palestinians only attack isreal because they live in an open air prison idiocy.

The Palestinians use ambulances as troop carriers, and schools and hospitals as weapons storage depots.

So when isreal attacks these legitimate military targets.

The Palestinians can say "look the evil Zionists bombed a hospital!!!".

As far as the Palestinians being trapped in a giant open air prison.

It is of their own making.

There was once no walls, travel was quite free between the 2, and the Palestinians caused many many many tragedies inside isreal.

Bus bombings, bombing markets, just pulling out guns and spraying in crouded streets.

Since the isrealis put up the walls and began restrictions on traveling to isreal for the Palestinians, this has completely stopped.

Since the Palestinians can't cause mass casualties or other atrocities in isreal any more.

They sit back and launch rockets into isreal.

Only after many thousands have been launched, does isreal respond.

In response they bomb the sights where the rockets come from, which is usually a residential neighbor hood, with many civies.

At thus point all you Jew haters pipe in with your "isreal is evil, look at all the civies they just killed!!!" Bs.

When in fact the Palestinians are just using simple minded useful idiots that believe them firing from a civie neighbor hood doesn't make it a legitimate military target.

If this was happening to Russia, well think Chechnya.

They did that over basically nothing.

If they were under constant assault like isreal, they would have already "cleansed" the Palestinians from the land.

Just as a start, you guys want me to continue at great length?

I can and will.

In fact I argue with mist of you guts here a lot, you know I will.

In fact this thread is basically a who's who of those I disagree with regularly on ATS.

Just missing the winning cheese guy.



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 07:57 AM
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Seems to confirm reports of Israel's involvement in Ukraine earlier on.

More and more Israel is been treated like a rogue state, first America snubbing them and now Russia warning them.


edit on 19-4-2015 by bullcat because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: JonStone




...in response to Iran obtaining more advanced missiles from Russia, which could be used against the Jewish nation.


Used against the Jewish nation?

The S-300 is a defensive weapon, not an offensive weapon.

It would only be used against 'the Jewish nation' while that Jewish nation was attacking Iran...or does the Jewish nation have the sole right to defend itself?



Perhaps the Jewish people are going to use trampolines.



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: johnwick
a reply to: JonStone

Lol wow, there sure are a lot of isreal bashing prorussian folks all in one place.

Too bad I had to show up to ruin all the back patting and gleeful smiles.

First most, not all of you guys are batstuff crazy.

Isreal has not once launched a preemptive strike against the imaginary nation of Palestine.

They have suffered prolonged attacks sometimes for years before they counterattack.

Don't even throw out the lame isreal attacks hospitals, or the Palestinians only attack isreal because they live in an open air prison idiocy.

The Palestinians use ambulances as troop carriers, and schools and hospitals as weapons storage depots.

So when isreal attacks these legitimate military targets.

The Palestinians can say "look the evil Zionists bombed a hospital!!!".

As far as the Palestinians being trapped in a giant open air prison.

It is of their own making.

There was once no walls, travel was quite free between the 2, and the Palestinians caused many many many tragedies inside isreal.

Bus bombings, bombing markets, just pulling out guns and spraying in crouded streets.

Since the isrealis put up the walls and began restrictions on traveling to isreal for the Palestinians, this has completely stopped.

Since the Palestinians can't cause mass casualties or other atrocities in isreal any more.

They sit back and launch rockets into isreal.

Only after many thousands have been launched, does isreal respond.

In response they bomb the sights where the rockets come from, which is usually a residential neighbor hood, with many civies.

At thus point all you Jew haters pipe in with your "isreal is evil, look at all the civies they just killed!!!" Bs.

When in fact the Palestinians are just using simple minded useful idiots that believe them firing from a civie neighbor hood doesn't make it a legitimate military target.

If this was happening to Russia, well think Chechnya.

They did that over basically nothing.

If they were under constant assault like isreal, they would have already "cleansed" the Palestinians from the land.

Just as a start, you guys want me to continue at great length?

I can and will.

In fact I argue with mist of you guts here a lot, you know I will.

In fact this thread is basically a who's who of those I disagree with regularly on ATS.

Just missing the winning cheese guy.



Well, it wasn't Palestine who took over and started carving up the country after WW2 was it now?

The same happened in Ireland, first complete rule, then partition. Same thing happened, the OIRA and PIRA emerged. They weren't seen as aggressors or terrorists by the yanks then were they, no in fact Armalite weapons were sent over first glass on the QE2 FUNDED by the Yanks Causing more bloodshed for decades, but that's ok, that was good, Palestine is bad right? Talk about double standards.


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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: JonStone

Obama ‘surprised’ Putin held back this long on S-300 supply to Iran



Obama noted that Putin had previously suspended the sale “at our request. I am frankly surprised that it held this long, given that they were not prohibited by sanctions from selling these defensive weapons.”

Obama also said he’ll sign legislation expected to pass the Senate and House giving Congress a say on a final deal. He called it a “reasonable compromise.”

The legislation would block Obama from waiving congressional sanctions against Iran for at least 30 days after any final agreement. That would give lawmakers time to weigh in.



At least Putin sticks to his word.. unlike some others *ehm*



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 08:08 AM
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So now Russia is telling other countries what they can and can't do...oh the irony.

It's okay for Russia to send arms to countries that have willfully called for the destruction of Israel, and it's okmay for them to supply arms to separatists in Ukraine, but no other country can help them.

And nobody see the problem here...why am I not surprised by the plethora of it's okay for Russia to do what they want, but the rest of the world can't do anything because Russia says so.

Guarantee Israel won't fall to the Russian threats as they don't scare easily, just ask those who tried to remove Israel long before now.



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: bullcat
Seems to confirm reports of Israel's involvement in Ukraine earlier on.

More and more Israel is been treated like a rogue state, first America snubbing them and now Russia warning them.



maybe that is part of the plan, isreal being snubbed and seemingly at odds with the US, allowing them to undertake operations that doesn't land directly at the door of the white house.



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Rather than calling it a lie, why don't you google it and see the multiple sources. Anyone who doesn't think Iran and it's more vocal leaders wouldn't or haven't said as much redefines denial.

Now it's Israel's fault for Putin invading Georgia?

Guffaw....


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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 09:00 AM
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Let Israel solve it's own problems, it has nothing to do with us. If they want to go at it, let em, sit back and watch it on the telly.

We won't get one iota of thanks from them even if we did help, a week later, we will be at receiving end of their demands and tantrums yet again.

If Politicians feel allegiance to Israel just because they have had their willy skins cut off, fine, let them go there and be a politician, they should be living and working there, not here.



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posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: JonStone




...in response to Iran obtaining more advanced missiles from Russia, which could be used against the Jewish nation.


Used against the Jewish nation?

The S-300 is a defensive weapon, not an offensive weapon.

It would only be used against 'the Jewish nation' while that Jewish nation was attacking Iran...or does the Jewish nation have the sole right to defend itself?



Actually with some modifications a SAM can be made into a offensive weapon. SUch as adding GPS or taking existing maps and programming in targets. The downside is it has to be within range though.



posted on Apr, 19 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: bullcat

Israel is a country that loves to play the world stage so has to have an enemy. Were it not Iran with its israeli secret service's media propaganda machine telling the world how threatened its existence is by that country it could equally by another country.

However whether its in tandem with the USA and rothschild's private army, or just off its own back, without foreign aid it couldn't arm another country, and the idea of playing on the world stage apart from the money and media (which the web has defused considerably), is surprising. We all know it interferes in foreign countries and Netty likes to think he's a world player but - excuse me! Perhaps he would like to explain to the world how ISIS is not attacking Israel were his propaganda in any way correct.



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