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Hillary Clinton: The International Neocon Warmonger

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posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 03:45 PM
a reply to: Greathouse

Buy Putin's actions in Georgia, Chechnya and the Ukraine do you consider him a neocon?

Of course not! He murdered all those Chechens in self defense! And he was forced to invade Ukraine because, erm, he had to!

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 03:46 PM
Bush or Clinton...both bad choices but...

Clinton over Bush for sure. It's not even a choice. Does anyone really want a third Bush in the White house. Look what the other 2 did to the economy. more Bushes. Ever.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 04:11 PM

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Willtell
A crazy group of GOP right-wing nuts with another sinister Bush candidate leading the way as one choice, versus literally an evil wicked “woman” as another choice…what a bargain!

Why is woman in quotes? You think she's not really a woman?

Besides, the election cycle hasn't even begun. Don't assume she'll get the Democrat's nod.

Good question.

It is an editorial comment, non-biological of course, on the idea of the divine feminine, woman’s intuition, the wonderful and best attributes of our female genus and that Hillary is far away from those feminine attributes of a positive and divine nature imo.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 04:13 PM
a reply to: queenofswords

He wont run against Hillary unless she stumbles.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 05:45 PM
a reply to: DJW001

You're right how could I be such a fool. Putin is a saint and the defender of Islam!!!! ( change's position before struck by lightning)
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posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 06:32 PM

A crazy group of GOP right-wing nuts with another sinister Bush candidate leading the way as one choice, versus literally an evil wicked “woman” as another choice…what a bargain!

Willtell, I don't often agree with you, but this is one of those rare times I do. It looks like we are screwed either way. I despise Jeb Bush for his positions on issues and Hilary is flat out an evil criminal.

Depressing doesn't begin to describe the situation.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 06:44 PM

originally posted by: Willtell
Without a doubt this coming election is the worst choice in American history for the American people.


A crazy group of GOP right-wing nuts with another sinister Bush candidate leading the way as one choice, versus literally an evil wicked “woman” as another choice…what a bargain!

Here the conspiratorial historian and writer Webster Tarpley runs down the horrible record of Hillary Clinton on foreign matters and her husbands record on free trade agreements like NAFTA that have gutted the American middle class.

As the National Journal reported in 2014, even the pathetically weak anti-war left is not ready to reconcile with Hillary given her warmongering as Secretary of State. And with good reason. Scratching just lightly beneath the surface of Hillary Clinton’s career reveals the empirical evidence of her historic support for aggressive interventions around the globe. Beginning with Africa, Hillary defended the 1998 cruise missile strike on the El Shifa pharmaceutical plant in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, destroying the largest producer of cheap medications for treating malaria and tuberculosis and provided over 60% of available medicine in Sudan..”

This is the same leader who was murdered in the aftermath of the 2011 NATO bombing of Libya; an attack promoted and facilitated with the eager support of Mrs. Clinton. In an infamous CBS news interview, said regarding this international crime: “We came, we saw, he died.” As Time magazine pointed out in 2011, the administration understood removing Qaddafi from power would allow the terrorist cells active in Libya to run rampant in the vacuum left behind. Just last month the New York Times reported that Libya has indeed become a terrorist safe haven and failed state— conducive for exporting radicals through “ratlines” to the conflict against Assad in Syria. Hillary Clinton was indeed behind the Libyan fiasco her input in foregn policy as secretary of state.

Other than horrible policies like this she literally DID NOTHING as secretary of state!

….Accomplished not one foreign policy achievement!

At least John Kerry is trying to be real secretary of state by doing something other than going on lavish junket trips around the world as Hillary did

Hillary made prompt use of the ratlines for conflicts in the Middle East. In the summer of 2012, Clinton privately worked with then CIA director and subversive bonapartist David Petraeus on a proposal for providing arms and training to death squads to be used to topple Syria just as in Libya. This proposal was ultimately struck down by Obama, reported the New York Times in 2013, but constituted one of the earliest attempts at open military support for the Syrian death squads. Her voting record on intervening in Afghanistan and Iraq is well known and she also has consistently called for attacking Iran. She even told Fareed Zakaria the State Department was involved “behind the scenes” in Iran’s failed 2009 Green Revolution. . More recently in Foreign Policy magazine David Rothkopf wrote on the subject of the Lausanne nuclear accord, predicting a “snap-back” in policy by the winner of the 2016 election to the foreign policy in place since the 1980s. The title of this article? “Hillary Clinton is the Real Iran Snap-Back.” This makes Hillary the prime suspect for a return to the madcap Iranian policies that routinely threaten the world with a World War 3 scenario.

Hillary Clinton is not only actively aggressing against Africa and the Middle East. She was one of the loudest proponents against her husband’s hesitancy over the bombing of Kosovo, telling Lucina Frank: “I urged him to bomb,” even if it was a unilateral action. While no Clinton spokesperson responded to a request by the Washington Free Beacon regarding her stance on Ukraine, in paid speeches she mentioned “putting more financial support into the Ukrainian government”. When Crimea decided to choose the Russian Federation over Poroshenko’s proto-fascist rump state, Hillary anachronistically called President Putin’s actions like “what Hitler did in the ‘30s.” As a leader of the bumbled ”reset” policy towards Russia, Hillary undoubtedly harbors some animus against Putin and will continue the destabilization project ongoing in Ukraine.

Not content with engaging in debacles in Eastern Europe, she has vocally argued for a more aggressive response to what she called the “rollback of democratic development and economic openness in parts of Latin America.” This indicates her willingness to allow the continuation of CIA sponsored efforts at South American destabilization in the countries of Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina and Brazil.

So it seems that Hillary is a neocon hawk certainly more hawkish than her husband Bill Clinton was as president, so expect Hillary to be George Bush with a wig on

Maybe on domestic issues will she be more progressive than Bill Clinton. But that’s not saying much of the president, Clinton, who gutted welfare for the poor and brought us NAFTA that is aiding in the destruction of the middle class

The “Giant Sucking Sound”: Clinton Gave US NAFTA and Other Free Trade Sellouts

“There is no success story for workers to be found in North America 20 years after NAFTA,” states AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka. Unlike other failures of his Presidency, Bill Clinton can not run from NAFTA. It was Vice President Al Gore, not a veto-proof Republican congress, who lobbied to remove trade barriers with low-wage Mexico. The record of free trade is clear. Multinational corporations and Wall Street speculators realize incredible profits, wages remain stagnant in the US, poverty persists in the developing world, and the remaining industrial corporations in America and Canada are increasingly owned by Chinese, Indian and other foreign interests.

America’s free trade policy is upside down. Besides Canada, Australia and Korea, most of our “free” trade partners are low-wage sweatshop paradises like Mexico, Chile, Panama, Guatemala, Bahrain and Oman. The US does in fact apply tariffs on most goods and on most nations of origin – rates are set by the US International Trade Commission (USTIC), a quasi-public federal agency.

Here’s were Hillary the so called liberal just like her husband will pretend to be a domestic progressive but will stab the middle class in the back by the horrible trade agreements like NAFTA( THAT Bill Clinton enacted).

Indeed nothing is more vital to the 1 present club of hedonistic fascists than these crooked trade agreements that take middle class jobs from Americans and go down to a country like Mexico and pay slave wage where the same job here use to pay a highly livable wage.

Unfortunately though any thing bad Hillary will do the GOP candidate will triple in harm as did the last GOP scoundrel in office George Bush.

The future I am afraid people looks dim

I am a liberal and I approve this message, lol.

She is too much of a war hawk for my tastes.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 06:46 PM

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: Willtell

First off I despise Hillary Clinton. But I have a question for you on the word neocon.

Buy Putin's actions in Georgia, Chechnya and the Ukraine do you consider him a neocon?

I hear you that perhaps the word "neo-con" incorrectly places war-mongering as purely a right wing thing. Although arguably, Putin is NOT a leftist nor a communist by any means.

However, there obviously are many examples across history of feverish leftist violent or war-mongering leaders.
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posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 06:49 PM

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: queenofswords

Besides, the election cycle hasn't even begun. Don't assume she'll get the Democrat's nod.

John Kerry. Keep your eye on him. He is trying so hard to get this deal with Iran by hook or by crook. If he does succeed, he will run, and his record vs. Hillary's will shine in the eyes of their base.
I would vote for Jeb before I vote for Hillary. But I would vote for Kerry in a hot damn minute if he got the Dem nod.

All of those are horrible choices. I can't even fathom having another Bush in office. Without a doubt the last two were the worst and MOST war-mongering presidents since 1990. I also do not want either Clinton nor Kerry, which are war-mongerers light. I hate the options.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 06:51 PM

originally posted by: amazing
Bush or Clinton...both bad choices but...

Clinton over Bush for sure. It's not even a choice. Does anyone really want a third Bush in the White house. Look what the other 2 did to the economy. more Bushes. Ever.

I hate to say this, but yes, I'd take just about anything over another Bush. Their legacy is pure evil.

Having said that, we shouldn't have to choose the "lesser of two evils" either. We need a viable third party and a move away from the "winner takes all" system we have here in the US, which basically precludes more than a two party system.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 06:57 PM
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Well Putin definitely has conservative views, but he likes to portray himself is the great humanitarian Savior.

posted on Apr, 15 2015 @ 09:41 PM

originally posted by: amazing
Bush or Clinton...both bad choices but...

Clinton over Bush for sure. It's not even a choice.

Bush Clinton, all in the family. Bill is the adopted son of George H.
Making Bill the brother of George H and then also Jeb.
This makes HIllary the adopted daughter.

Read all about it.

All in the family. No kidding it is sick and we need a delete button.

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posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 03:01 AM

originally posted by: angeldoll
I too, would vote for a qualified male, rather than elect an unqualified female for the sake of having a female President. But as it happens, Hillary Clinton is infinitely qualified.

No, Hillary is not qualified. As first lady she tried to reform hillary care with a proposal that ultimately failed, in 2008 no one including her would even touch it. After leaving the WH she was the junior senator to a state she never lived in but could win through name recognition, and she couldn't even complete 1 term in office. Then she ran for president, the media gave her a coronation and when it came time to talk policy she lost to Obama. She took a Secretary of State job, that she couldn't handle the stress of, and halfway through.

Those are not qualifications to be president.

posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 04:42 AM
I had a guy argue endlessly with me that we were entirely justified in our incursion into Libya. It didn't matter that I showed him they were an ally of ours in the War on Terror. It didn't matter when I showed him that less than a 1000 civilians had been killed, most of who were shelled in cities that had been taken over by militants, or who had picked up arms themselves. It didn't matter when I showed him the nation is crippled beyond measure, and one if its four provincial governments, the most well funded, is Islamist in nature and persecutes Christians. Neither did it matter that Libya was one of the most stable and prosperous nations in all of Africa and is now entirely demolished. It was an amazing thing to watch.

People who bind themselves to one party or the other are oftentimes illogical and incapable of critical thinking. I support more Dems than I do Republicans, especially on social issues, but the two parties are joined at the hip in regards to endless war, financing of Wall St, the capitulation of our middle class infrastructure through outsourcing of jobs, and the maintenance of propping up and consolidating the banking sector. Essentially, I back the Repubs on guns, Dems on women and gay rights, and neither on most everything else.

Our choices in 16 are truly awful. At least there was a sense of hope with Obama. This is going to be an epic $### show. Our only chance is if by some miracle Warren runs or Paul makes it through, and even those two are hardly to be trusted, but at least they're not fully covered in stench like the others, especially Clinton and Bush.
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posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 06:09 PM
And she seems to have a nasty potty mouth too. whoa.

  • "You sold out, you mother f**ker! You sold out!" (From the book "Inside" by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling at Democrat lawyer.)

    "It's been said, and I think it's accurate, that my husband was obsessed by terrorism in general and al-Qaida in particular." (Hillary telling a post-9/11 world what a 'great' commander in chief her husband was; Dateline, NBC 4/16/2004.)

    "I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have learned [about Islam] has come from our daughter." ( 8/8/1999 - Hillary at a White House function, proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the "religion of peace") Read more at

  • "F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you #-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut." (From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 -
    Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good morning."

    "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!" (From the book "The First Partner" p. 259 -
    Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

    "Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!" (From the book "Hillary's Scheme" p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

    "Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?"
    (From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)

    for lots and lots more click below.

    edit on 4/16/2015 by awareness10 because: aliens

    posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 06:21 PM
    Hillary is trying to go soft left to maintain her hold on the Dem base

    This election is going to be a really good show

    Watching to see if a dark horse dem will show up on one hand and the side show of the GOP wannabees trying to take down Bush

    And see whether the corrupt buffoon Christie will waddle in the race like a walrus on the beach

    Christie is wallowing around like a wounded whale claiming he is the only one who could beat Hillary…what a joke.

    In fact he is the only candidate who is more corrupt than Hillary

    posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 07:55 PM

    originally posted by: queenofswords

    Besides, the election cycle hasn't even begun. Don't assume she'll get the Democrat's nod.

    John Kerry. Keep your eye on him. He is trying so hard to get this deal with Iran by hook or by crook. If he does succeed, he will run, and his record vs. Hillary's will shine in the eyes of their base.

    Excellent Point! So far, most Hillary worriers could get flanked with a Kerry run, and anyone who believes Kerry is any better than Hillary could be a victim. As Hillary seems to strive to be the first woman leader to vaporize a city, did everyone forget how much Kerry wanted to reflexively attack Syria over the questionable accusation of the Syrian Army using chemical weapons? How about arming the Syrian rebels, when some of them are are now known as ISIS? Both him and Hillary are about just as bad when it comes to being Warmongers. Even with this Iran deal, it is obviously still a ruse somehow to get a war started against Iran. As a poster child for why the rest of the world sees Americans as Arrogant and Warmongers, it would be so stupid to believe a word Kerry has said lately about peace with Iran.
    In fact, Kerry is worse than Hillary. I think Kerry understands why Hillary lost the Primary to Obama. Hillary was not convincing in her excuses and apologies for backing the Iraq War, and she could not shut up about Iran, hinting at another even larger protracted war. Obama came across as a Peace candidate, as the last thing most Americans wanted to hear about was anything pro-war. They still do, and as in last Primary she was in, Hillary is incorrigible when it comes to pro-war rhetoric. But Kerry is more sneaky than Hillary, and now he is trying to look so reasonable with Iran. Indeed, he can now turn around and announce a run for President on a "Peace Ticket". Just because Hillary is a famous Warmonger, it is a fallacy to simply conclude Kerry is a better alternative.
    edit on 16-4-2015 by naftaland because: Typos

    posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 10:39 PM
    a reply to: naftaland

    So for all the anti-war Democrats, if Hillary makes the ticket for President, they have to vote for her. War is wrong, they all clamor, but if Hillary endorses a war, it is suddenly OK? Or at least they look the other way. You will see so many left leaning people who proclaim themselves to be leftist anti-war and peace activists voting for Hillary. Why? How is it possible for someone to be an anti-war Democrat, and at the same time be a Hillary supporter? It is absolute proof of Brainwashing and Orwellian DoubleThink. Interestingly, from Hillary's support from the anti-war left, we do have a metric of how many people are Delusional.
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    posted on Apr, 16 2015 @ 10:41 PM
    a reply to: Willtell

    Doesn't matter what the people say! She will be selected for the president.
    edit on 16-4-2015 by mekhanics because: (no reason given)

    posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 12:17 AM
    Yea. Another year and a half of this crap.


    Be active in the politics, not just on crappy online message boards, but in your local community.

    Not just Federal politics, but locally.

    Start your own business.

    Own your existence.

    Find a pair and be a man. (To the best of my knowledge, I have never been a woman, so I don't have a clue what it means to "woman up", my guess is that it is painful).

    Quit blaming the world for what you think is wrong with it. Quit saying what politicians need to do to fix this world. Quit pointing your short fat finger at the T.V. or computer screen.

    Get off your lazy ass and make it happen.

    Either that, or for the love of whatever god you may believe in, STF UP!

    That was what used to make America great.

    This country doesn't suck. You do.

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