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Judge slams victims for tot's 'black men' fear

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posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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I really believe that judges have way too much power anyway. They have absolute control over the fate of anyone that crosses their path... regardless of innocent or guilty. It could even be something trivial, and a judge can ruin a life.

That kind of power needs to be put back into the hands of jurors. A judge should have no more power than that of a sports referee.




posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 01:41 PM
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more divide and conquer race baiting from the news. and the bench.


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posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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We have thousands in jail for smoking pot yet these scumbags admit to an armed home invasion and get probation because a 3 YEAR OLD is afraid of the people who broke in HER LIVING ROOM>

Good is evil, black is white, up is down. Our society makes no sense anymore, unless you look at it upside down and backwards.

I feel like I am in some alter reality.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: Ancient Champion

originally posted by: Jinzetsu

originally posted by: Ancient Champion

originally posted by: Jinzetsu
Only in america...


Right, because stuff like this never happens anywhere else. Get over yourself.



You sound like a typical patriot who licks the shoes of your country regardless of what crap they step on.

No actually, never heard of this kind of stupidity from a judge in any other country. I mean have I read about strange things going on in other countries regarding law? Sure, like this? Against a 3 yr old? Never.


And you sound like typical US hater who hates simply because you were told to hate.

No this isn't the first time in world history that a judge abused his power like this.


I get it, you're made because you didn't get any stars on your post. Is that it? Do you want a star? If I give you a star will it shut you up? Trust me, my statement remains true. I just did a search in your favor, looked for something similar to this and found nothing about a judge vs a child. What I did find sadly was this disgusting article.
www.nydailynews.com...
Another American judge..

Listen Mr patriot, America is not a bad country by any means but the people in power are complete idiots save for a few. I don't need to hate America or love it to know that much.
edit on 14-4-2015 by Jinzetsu because: (no reason given)


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posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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This judge is total scum. Also. Don't they have mandatory minimums for violent felonies like armed robbery? This charge is basically one step down from murder. I'd have to look that up for which state this was in. Either way this guy should no longer be a judge, but then that would be "racist" also if he were disbarred.

ID



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Clearly an unfounded fear with no basis in personal experience that requires public shaming.

This guy is still on the bench folks.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: Jinzetsu

originally posted by: Ancient Champion

originally posted by: Jinzetsu

originally posted by: Ancient Champion

originally posted by: Jinzetsu
Only in america...


Right, because stuff like this never happens anywhere else. Get over yourself.



You sound like a typical patriot who licks the shoes of your country regardless of what crap they step on.

No actually, never heard of this kind of stupidity from a judge in any other country. I mean have I read about strange things going on in other countries regarding law? Sure, like this? Against a 3 yr old? Never.


And you sound like typical US hater who hates simply because you were told to hate.

No this isn't the first time in world history that a judge abused his power like this.




I get it, you're made because you didn't get any stars on your post. Is that it? Do you want a star? If I give you a star will it shut you up? Trust me, my statement remains true. I just did a search in your favor, looked for something similar to this and found nothing about a judge vs a child. What I did find sadly was this disgusting article.
www.nydailynews.com...
Another American judge..

Listen Mr patriot, America is not a bad country by any means but the people in power are complete idiots save for a few. I don't need to hate America or love it to know that much.


Don't worry comrade I don't "made" over stars and people in power are corrupt everywhere, if you looked somewhere besides RT you would get better results.
edit on 14-4-2015 by Ancient Champion because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:28 PM
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Back on topic, Nothing will happen to the judge being as he is not white.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Sounds like reverse racism on several counts.

The meathead that broke into the house is still guilty any way they look at it.




No, it sounds outrageous because it is BS, if you read the linked article, the parents wrote a statement essentially blaming robbers for causing fear of black men:

Jordan wrote in a victim impact statement that her daughter was still "in constant fear of black men." Both robbers were African-American.
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"Whenever we are running errands, if we come across a black male, she holds me tight and begs me to leave," the mother said. "It has affected her friendships at school and our relationships with African-American friends."

This Victim Impact Statement is what the judge criticized:

"I am offended. … I am deeply offended that they would be victimized by an individual and express some kind of fear of all black men," [Judge Olu Stevens] said.
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"This little girl certainly has been victimized, and she can't help the way she feels," he said. "My exception is more with her parents and their accepting that kind of mentality and fostering those type of stereotypes."
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"Do three year olds form such generalized, stereotyped and racist opinions of others?" he wrote. "I think not. Perhaps the mother had attributed her own views to her child as a manner of sanitizing them."
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He noted in court and in his post that "the statement played absolutely no role in the sentencing decision."
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"I wasn't criticizing the victims, I was criticizing a statement that I thought was a generalization against an entire race of people," he said.


Of the sentence:

Wallace and his accomplice, Marquis McAfee, both 27, were arrested about three weeks after the robbery. Both pleaded guilty and McAfee, who was on probation for a prior crime, was sentenced to 10 years in prison, which he is serving.

But Stevens said in court that Wallace had no prior convictions for violent crimes and strong support from his family and friends, who wrote letters to the judge noting that he had won the "Johnny Unitas Scholar Athlete Award" at Iroquois High School and stayed out of trouble during 17 months in jail awaiting trial.

Stevens said in court that "more times than not" he sends offenders who use firearms during their offenses to prison, but in this case "I think the equities weigh in favor of you having the opportunity to redeem yourself."


Further, if you read you will see that the sentence of probation clearly was already considered prior to this Victim Impact Statement:

(Tommy Gray, father)
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I don't have a recommended sentence but I feel like probation is not enough. This crime will effect my daughter for the rest of her life and Mr. Wallace deserves to serve time. If holding a little girl at gunpoint gets you probation, then our system is flawed.

As the father clearly mentions it, twice, then they obviously knew that probation was being considered. They wrote this statement to get something beyond probation. Ergo, the statement didn't incite the judge to give probation.

As the thread is clearly based on false premises, I'll be reporting it.
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posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Greven

Pretty sure that if you were an impressionable three year old, you'd be scared of whatever waltzed into your home and terrorized you. It's not outrageous for a child to be scared of something that violated what is supposed to be a safe environment.

The thread isn't based on a false premise. The judge, while not coming out and saying it directly, did imply child's fear and the parent's fostering of that fear, was racist. Screw that judge. He's garbage who doesn't deserve to preside over anything.

On a side note... Probation!? Really!!? It's a shame someone in the family wasn't armed.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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My title must have sucked


www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: Greven

Sounds like you completely mis-interpreted my post.




posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: aboutface
This is wrong on so many levels. Blaming the victims, letting the offender off and then going public on facebook.




If you want to see the future of the USA, just look up what happens in South Africa. This exact scenario plays out on a weekly basis, and they continue to murder the Afrikaaners (white South Africans) at a rate of about 80-90 per day.

Not so long ago a 77yr old woman and her 57yr old daughter were murdered by their own gardener and his friend, by stabbing them in the vaginas multiple times with broken bottles and slicing their breasts off while they choked on their own blood.


There is no such thing as 'racism'. There is only what nature coded into our survival instincts, which is to be cautious and wary around 'outsiders', especially those who have harmed you in the past.

This applies just the same to blacks who have/had a fear of whites attacking them. It's not racist to fear a group who you've watched lynch your grandfather.

This is not directed at you aboutface but a general statement: If the motto of ATS is "DENY IGNORANCE" then let us please dispense with the BS concerning race in the USA, and face the facts. Black-on-white crime has reached epidemic levels and the media silence about it amounts to a damn conspiracy in itself.

This poor little girl is 100% justified and acting on a very well-trained instinct which will serve her safety well.

Anyone wanting to argue with that should first provide a list of white parts of towns/cities that a black person cannot safely walk at 11pm.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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I wonder what his record of being a judge is like, if stuff like this has happened before. Really, I can see how the girl could be traumatized. I really don't think it was the time or place to stop the court proceedings and point out the girl's fear and call her racist. It's ridiculous. Then, he says it won't affect his decision. Just giving them probation and basically turning them back out on the street after his little speech of being offended, it looks to me that he did.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
Sorry, I replied to the wrong post. I meant to reply to the OP.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
a reply to: Greven

Pretty sure that if you were an impressionable three year old, you'd be scared of whatever waltzed into your home and terrorized you. It's not outrageous for a child to be scared of something that violated what is supposed to be a safe environment.

The thread isn't based on a false premise. The judge, while not coming out and saying it directly, did imply child's fear and the parent's fostering of that fear, was racist. Screw that judge. He's garbage who doesn't deserve to preside over anything.

On a side note... Probation!? Really!!? It's a shame someone in the family wasn't armed.

Read my post, read what the judge actually said. Or listen to the video, I don't care. The judge never accused the little girl of racism. Period, full stop, this thread's very title is based on a lie. This thread's OP then goes on to claim that the robbers were sentenced to probation - that is factually untrue.

One robber was sentenced to 10 years in a different hearing, as he had prior run-ins with the law. This hearing was for a robber who was otherwise completely clean and had a strong support network. Again, the victim statement itself was written with the knowledge that the judge was considering probation. Therefore, the victim statement had no impact and the judge sentenced the robber to what he was already considering: probation.

What he criticized was the victim statement - specifically the mother's. If you listened to him, you might have heard this:

"I am offended. … I am deeply offended that they would be victimized by an individual and express some kind of fear of all black men," he said.
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"I wonder if the perpetrator had been white would they be in fear of white men. The answer would probably be no."

That is why he takes offense to the victim statement - because the mother alleges:

"Whenever we are running errands, if we come across a black male, she holds me tight and begs me to leave," the mother said. "It has affected her friendships at school and our relationships with African-American friends."

It's the gross generalization that he has a problem with:

"This little girl certainly has been victimized, and she can't help the way she feels," he said. "My exception is more with her parents and their accepting that kind of mentality and fostering those type of stereotypes."


edit: There are further errors - the little girl didn't write a statement as claimed by the OP; the girl's mother did. Oh, and this is blatantly wrong as previously shown (from the OP):

A black judge in Kentucky gave a home invader and armed robber a light sentence because he said he feels that the three-year-old white victim was a “racist”

Recall that the sentence of probation was already considered prior to the victim statement. The OP is premised on hate-mongering BS.
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posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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That's because it is racist you #wad. That is the exact DEFINITION of racism. You just immediately associate the term was an attack on someone's substance as a person because you yourself are probably scared of being called one. Get your head out of your ass and start using it for something productive.



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: pianoasis
That's because it is racist you #wad. That is the exact DEFINITION of racism. You just immediately associate the term was an attack on someone's substance as a person because you yourself are probably scared of being called one. Get your head out of your ass and start using it for something productive.

Who and What are you directing such vitriol towards?
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posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
I'm outraged that an ignorant judge is too stupid to recognize what a traumatic experience that is for a three year old girl. That almost makes me wish that I lived in Louisville so I could vote that garbage judge out.


This is definitely a case where the maxim "any press, is good press" doesn't hold. It appeared that there was an election ad following the court recording, does anyone know if the judge is up for re-election? If so, this type of press could seriously get him voted out.

Louisville Voters: get to the polls and make your vote count!



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: yuppa
ME thinks this is going to get reported to the ACLU and their countys highest law enforcer. Even al sharpton can see the racism of that judge.(although he wont admit it)


May get reported to ACLU, but the judge is already defending his statements on his facebook page and in the press. Either way, unless this is heavily picked up on by MSM, it will likely disappear in the next day or so.



Just as idiotic as the black female politician (she is so unimportant to me I don't remember her name) who accused an INFANT of being racist because the baby buried its head on its fathers shoulder.....Weeelllll, that baby is racist and afraid of black people! - idiot! just like the black politician who said Guam would tip over if everyone moved to one side...... Who are the people that vote these dumbasses in?



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