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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
Looks like Iran is going to be Russia's b**ch for real. This puts Iran on a level of rhetoric even higher than North Korea. We will need our own defense system to shield us from the rhetoric now.
Deal with Iran...off the table..hasn't been signed yet.
That doesn't even make sense. The original deal was signed in 2007 according to this article. Iran's survived this long without the S-300s, so why would they suddenly become dependent on Russia? In fact, Iran sued Russia in international court over Russia's breach of contract. So if anything, Russia's doing this to settle the lawsuit against themselves (I think it was a $4 billion lawsuit but too lazy to look it up).
Also, the S-300s are purely defensive. So that's like saying we need to built a missile defense system to guard ourselves against a fence LOL
No it doesn't make sense if you're used to quoting RT news, granted.
Wow that's a great argument. Of course the Russians would know when they signed a deal with Iran.
So please, with your more credible sources, can you tell me when Iran & Russia originally signed their deal for the S-300s? I originally thought it was 2008 but the article I linked says 2007. Either way, it was signed before the Obama Administration even came to power. Then it was suspended in 2010. The S-300 is a previous generation weapons system & the West already has ways around it. So what's your point?
Looks like Iran is going to be Russia's b**ch for real. This puts Iran on a level of rhetoric even higher than North Korea. We will need our own defense system to shield us from the rhetoric now. Deal with Iran...off the table..hasn't been signed yet.
originally posted by: Willtell
Why now?
It would seem that Iran wouldn’t need this with the new agreement.
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
The thing is, that radar system might be a challenge for the air craft that we know about.
What about the aircraft that we have in our arsenal that are still deep jet black? Meethinks they would cut through the S-300 like a hot knife.
originally posted by: yuppa
S-300/400 not invincible defense it turns out
Flying below its radar detection height is also one of its weaknesses.
originally posted by: yuppa
S-300/400 not invincible defense it turns out
Flying below its radar detection height is also one of its weaknesses.
NATO members had access to the s300 for a long time thanks to greece.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
I believe Russia has already completed the S-400 now (which are not in the deal). So this isn't as much of a game changer as some would have us believe. Iran & Russia first signed the deal for the S-300s back in 2008. So I'd guess Israel & the West have many ways to defeat them now.
originally posted by: junglimogli
It's true the West would have developed plans to counter the S-300.. it's only natural to do so ..
However, they can not completely neutralize the S-300 .. heavy loses would still be expected .. and thats where the problem lies ..
The West always wants to fight wars where their enemy is weak .. and where they don't suffer heavy loses..
In this case, heavy loses would resonate home directly .. and the people would rise up against the war ..as with Vietnam ..