a reply to: butcherguy
One of the most difficult things for me is dealing with folks that believe. Once they become entrenched in their comfort zone, they can not be
extricated by anything less than a violent (not necessarily physical) event.
They are willfully ignorant and perfectly satisfied to be so. There is no0discussion where they do not fall back to 'faith, feelings and belief'.
How can they not? Their center is based on these things.
It is literally impossible for them to modify or abandon what they think is the core to themselves.
This is also true when you bring up controversial studies which indicate that what is accepted as 'truths' by other political sectors. (progressive,
liberal, neo-cons, etc.)
They would ALL rather think that factoids should be accepted to fit an agenda that defends their ego structure. It's understandable. Scientists,
sociologists, economists, SC Justices are just as guilty.
My thoughts on this have been, ANYTIME WE ARE UNWILLING TO ADMIT TO OUR IGNORANCE WE FAIL.
I have been forced to quail before my lack of understanding and lack of relevant information multiple times when in active discussion. I ATTEMPT to
recognize my weaknesses in that we can not know everything about anything. To do so I have begun (finally) to have positions that I invest nothing of
myself (I fail at this too!) in. They are just a recitation of possibly relevant facts (as close as I can tell) and the extraction of meaning from
them. The facts are not MINE. The derivations are but I try to maintain objectivity when I review them to see if any relevancy, relationships and
conclusions can be drawn from them.
I try desperately to not believe, hold faith in or feel in analysis of an issue. I do not define myself as my positions can shift.
I do adhere to certain principles which were generated by study. I think it is useful to have a healthy, burgeoning middles class, that TPTB consider
us as their chattels, that conspiracies exist, that charity works better in most situations, that we will either succeed as a species or be eliminated
by remorseless Universal processes. There's more but I can TELL you WHY I think these things are worthwhile without resorting to biases,
nebulosities, commonly held ideations and lastly illogic.
It is why I could be branded as a progressive. I want to adapt to the real world and make it better. Dealing with the fanatic fantasist is a
meaningless exercise in most cases. They don't want change, many don't need change (I'm doing quite well, thank you very much!) and they are
perfectly suited to their social setting.
They are stupid, smug and firmly rooted in falsities which only further their limited ambitions. Profound trauma can modify them but that is about
It is too bad that they have so much sway. They interfere in every aspect of actually improving the world and worse of all to them this is GOOD thing.