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So... I'm a progressive... You can regress all you like.

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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 01:47 PM
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Lately, this year specifically...

I've seen a rise in the demeaning tone with which people spout the word "progressive"...


"These progressives want to..."

"You progressives all think that..."



Well whatever... Is what I say.

So what.


You'd like to label yourselves "traditionalist"...

That "things were better in the good old days"...



Well I feel you're more of a regressive than a traditionalist...

You wish to take us back to detrimental values that you believe we're better simply because things were whiter than white...

Regress all you like...



I'm for progression...


Progress needs to be made...



We do not need to regress into your white majority, rich over poor utopia...


We need a cultural balance for 2015 onwards...
We need fairness in the work place...
We need equal rights for women world wide...
We need to protect children and nourish and educate them instead of building drones for the work force...




..."But it happened to us and we are fine"...


No you're not...

You're a regressive, hoping for the same fate that befell you, to befall others...





So... I'm a progressive... You can regress all you like.
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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 01:50 PM
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Who decides when balanced is balanced and fair is fair?

If you can answer these questions then I'd like to know...



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: DAZ21
Who decides when balanced is balanced and fair is fair?

If you can answer these questions then I'd like to know...


Our moral compass.

Maybe if you're more specific I can give a better answer.


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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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Liberal means freely given, giving of plenty. What's wrong with that?

What is it Conservatives are trying to conserve? Privileges for the few? Less responsibility to one's fellow? Keeping power in the hands of the few?

I also am a Liberal progressive and damn proud of it. progressive means moving forward. If you're not progressing you're stagnating, dead, useless.

Spot on rant, brother.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: Ironhawke

Well put, pal.


I'm also a Liberal.
& pretty socialist too...


I'm a mishmash in all honesty...

But always progressive.


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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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Labels Bro...

They will be the death of us all.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I 've always wondered just what's wrong with "Socialist". If I can get any non-Birch answers, that is lol



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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Nobody likes anybody. Just the way the world works. Not point in trying to pick a fight about it.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: Ironhawke
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I 've always wondered just what's wrong with "Socialist". If I can get any non-Birch answers, that is lol


That baffles me as well...

Everytime I hear it used as a derogatory term I look up the definition for kicks.
I know full well what it means...

But it's like a daily re-check to see if something's changed...



Then I usually star the socialist for being progressive


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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Should progressives be accepting and understanding of people that have differing opinions and beliefs?



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
Labels Bro...

They will be the death of us all.


For sure, buddy.

This may now be a can of worms...

Fell for the oldest divide and conquer in the book



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Was kinda my point as well.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

That's not progression that's an old "say nothing, do nothing" attitude.


If I don't like someone's opinion I'll tell them...
As do you I'm sure


Welcome to progress.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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What's odd is what people call themselves.

After you get to know them a little bit. It turns out...

They are nothing like their label represents.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Everything.

But let's take feminists for example, I'm all for equality but these feminists would push until equality was overan and the current state of affairs today was turned on its head. I've spoken to many women that say feminists actually damaged the likelihood of equality.

You say we need to nurture and educate children to stop creating drones for the workforce, but not everyone can be a surgeon, some people have to do the drone work, and for some no matter how much you nurture or educate them, That's all they are capable of. That is what actually creates a balanced workforce and society.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: butcherguy

That's not progression that's an old "say nothing, do nothing" attitude.


If I don't like someone's opinion I'll tell them...
As do you I'm sure


Welcome to progress.

Your answer would seem to indicate that progressives are not tolerant.
Or am I not understanding correctly?


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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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Charlie, I don't often agree with you, but I love you brother.

In my opinion you are playing games with words. Here is the deal for me...I am happy to give and help others on my own terms. It is when Government steps in and legislates my 'giving' that I get angry. People should be free to enjoy the fruits of their labor and be free from Government meddling. If that makes me 'regressive' then I can live with that label.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: DAZ21

My point is the drone is paid a hell of a lot less than a surgeon...

& for what?


Is the the exceedingly difficult and gruelling task of becoming a surgeon and then doing the work...

Or the stigma attached to stacking shelves...


Both necessary for the globe to turn...


& if it's capability, that's not fair, because we cannot help what we are capable of... etc.

In my opinion.




As for feminism...
Feminism is feminism...

The recent hijacking of this movement is not what I'd label feminism at all.

Again, in my opinion.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

There word means forward thinking and an open broad mind, a compliment really, which I take it as so every damn time I hear it.
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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Depends what you mean by tolerance.


A difference of opinion... Sure.

Bigotry, hatred & vilification... No I'm intolerant of such and think to progress past such vitriol we should shut it down with intelligence rather than force.




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