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*Update* Game Changer OR Paradigm Shift ? – Walter Scott Shooting: Enhanced Video Shows Officer Sl

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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Generation9

Are you a LEO, or do you know any LEOs? I think it is a sad state of affairs when a uniformed, supposedly trained police officer gets a pass on shooting a man in the back just because "he might have a gun"... Did Scott have any felonies related to firearms?

Any civilian walking the street might have a gun! Also, people have run for plenty of non-violent crimes; it is called panic. It would be one thing if the video showed Walker turning with a hand under his shirt or raising an arm with what may look like a gun, but that never happened.

All the cops I know (here in Texas, and in Virginia / feds) all agree this was absolutely a bad shoot and think this cop has made their jobs all the more difficult.




posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.


Uhh yes.. just like Butcher please FREAKING LEARN BEFORE POSTING!!!!

They keep on firing as long as the wires are attached and the trigger is pulled.. til the battery run out.

Thanks for trying, please try again.

Maybe you should learn to read. The poster was talking about how many times darts can be deployed, not how long or how many times the shock feature can be used for torture.


I read the OP several times before posting, and several times since.

What are you talking about???

You usually say things I agree with, but what are you pointing out? I don't see it..


The darts can only be shot once.
The cop shot the darts so he would have had to reload then the car thief would have had to take it from him in order for it to be a threat to the cop.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: AttitudeProblem
looks like Officer threw malfuctioning taser away back behind him while reaching for his gun causing him to get tangled up in the wire also




Holy sweet JESUS! that is quite the blurry conviction (i mean propaganda)( Wait I mean conviction).



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: bullcat


So it's still ok to shoot somebody in the back?

Brave people over in that part of the world.



HA!!! Gotta love the foreigners!

Yes.. In America if someone has you attached to 1,000,000 volt + leads, you can shoot them in the back.

I know it sounds crazy, but hey! It's America


(please stop with the Anti-America campaign and join reality)


We have a say in American politics too, since your all over our back yard trampling your dirty boots around it.

I am fine with you telling me to shut the feck up, on one condition, you go home first.



Over here, YOU are the foreigner, well, more like a parasite.


edit on 13-4-2015 by bullcat because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.


Uhh yes.. just like Butcher please FREAKING LEARN BEFORE POSTING!!!!

They keep on firing as long as the wires are attached and the trigger is pulled.. til the battery run out.

Thanks for trying, please try again.

Maybe you should learn to read. The poster was talking about how many times darts can be deployed, not how long or how many times the shock feature can be used for torture.


I read the OP several times before posting, and several times since.

What are you talking about???

You usually say things I agree with, but what are you pointing out? I don't see it..


The darts can only be shot once.
The cop shot the darts so he would have had to reload then the car thief would have had to take it from him in order for it to be a threat to the cop.


Yes, the darts can only be shot once, but the shock can be administered as lond as the darts are attached..



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777



This means when the Taser fired during the struggle, the darts actually penetrated Slager, not Scott. Factually this aligns with the recorded statement of Slager and the reports of his initial debriefing. It could be that one dart is in the leg of Slager and the other is in the upper torso region as evidenced below.

theconservativetreehouse.com... ts/





would also explain the picture of Slager being debriefed after the confrontation with his left pant leg folded up as he explains events to the documenting officer
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Could someone direct me to the Original photo from pic number 2?
I don't mean to get all September Cluesy but I see a weird purple line coming down Officer Slager's left calf. The leg with the pant leg pulled up. Is that supposed to be blood or what?

P.S. I hope we don't have psy-ops from Jade Helm. Apparently I am in a submissive state but in an Insurgent Hot zone!




posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

I think Police should be given Cucumbers, for non-lethal defence, obviously the devices they have currently classified as non-lethal, are anything but non-lethal.

I would imagine the police would find a way to kill somebody with a cucumber too.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: AttitudeProblem

he is drawing his gun i think



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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can't get this to post right

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie
Holy sweet JESUS! that is quite the blurry conviction (i mean propaganda)( Wait I mean conviction).


thank you , I was able to deduce it with simple logic,,, when an individual tries to block a punch by a LEO with their face its called resisting,, when they try to run off with taser leads stuck in them its called an attemp to take the officer weapon away..



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: AttitudeProblem


a reply to: doompornjunkie
Holy sweet JESUS! that is quite the blurry conviction (i mean propaganda)( Wait I mean conviction).


thank you , I was able to deduce it with simple logic,,, when an individual tries to block a punch by a LEO with their face its called resisting,, when they try to run off with taser leads stuck in them its called an attemp to take the officer weapon away..



Wait, who got the taser leads stuck in them, the car thief or the cop?



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: doompornjunkie

Can an officer shoot to kill for being tazed, I don't know how that works



You betcha.

So can as a civilian.

Scenario:
You are armed and someone tazes you. Youl have a gun..

A) Let them taze you and render yourself defenseless.
B) Kill them as soon as you regain muscle control to protect yourself and the future of your family.

C) Oh hint... Police are humans, have families, and have kids! Quit expecting them to die to let criminals live!

Black, White, Purple, Yellow.. he wouldn't have ran unless he had a reason... quit letting black cloud your judgement.

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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.


Uhh yes.. just like Butcher please FREAKING LEARN BEFORE POSTING!!!!

They keep on firing as long as the wires are attached and the trigger is pulled.. til the battery run out.

Thanks for trying, please try again.

Maybe you should learn to read. The poster was talking about how many times darts can be deployed, not how long or how many times the shock feature can be used for torture.


I read the OP several times before posting, and several times since.

What are you talking about???

You usually say things I agree with, but what are you pointing out? I don't see it..


The darts can only be shot once.
The cop shot the darts so he would have had to reload then the car thief would have had to take it from him in order for it to be a threat to the cop.

Exactly.



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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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I agreed with the Michael Brown/Darren Wilson decision. Brown charged at Wilson.

However, there is absolutely zero excuse for shooting someone in the back as they're running away. Imagine a scenario:

Person 1 has a Tazer.
Person 2 has a firearm.
Motives are irrelevant.

Person 1 tazes Person 2. Person 1 then takes off running.
Person 2 fires his weapon at the running person 1. Killing them

If this happened between two civilians, person 2 would be in jail and there would be no 24/7 media coverage.
But because this person is a cop people are trying to defend him for some reason. And I NORMALLY side with the cops in matters like this.

This was murder.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: doompornjunkie

I agreed with the Michael Brown/Darren Wilson decision. Brown charged at Wilson.

However, there is absolutely zero excuse for shooting someone in the back as they're running away. Imagine a scenario:

Person 1 has a Tazer.
Person 2 has a firearm.
Motives are irrelevant.

Person 1 tazes Person 2. Person 1 then takes off running.
Person 2 fires his weapon at the running person 1. Killing them

If this happened between two civilians, person 2 would be in jail and there would be no 24/7 media coverage.
But because this person is a cop people are trying to defend him for some reason. And I NORMALLY side with the cops in matters like this.

This was murder.


Well strictly in your scenario, person 1 is tasing person 2 so they can take the lethal weapon from them. That is a life threatening situation. Knives are the same way, they can be thrown lethally to incapacitate though it takes more skill than with a taser.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
a reply to: Stormdancer777

This might clear that up:

Feidin Santana: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Feidin Santan is the video recorder, these are the five facts he has expressed his desire for everyone to know. One of those points is that Slager used his taser on Scott, when Scott loped away, he was still dragging the taser lead.


Santana told NBC Nightly News anchor Lester Holt:

"They were down on the floor before I started recording. I remember the police had control of the situation. He had control of Scott. And Scott was trying just to get away from the Taser."

The video begins with Slager and Scott in close range. An object falls to the ground and Scott can be seen running away from Slager with the strings from the Taser prongs hanging from his body. As he gets a few feet away from Slager, Scott opens fire, shooting seven times as Scott runs farther away. He then pauses and fires an eighth time. Scott then drops to the ground. Scott’s family said he was shot five times.


This "Conservative Activist" is attempting to spin this around, wanting us to believe that the barb/lead was in Slager and not Scott. It's nonsense. Someone is just trying to appease the RW crowd who refuse to believe a cop would shoot an unarmed black man in the back.


Someone who can be heard saying "F#cking abuse" on the video before he knows ANY of the facts is not a credible eyewitness.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer


THAT story changed pretty damn quick when Santana released his video. Remember, Santana waited to release his video, he gave the cops time to see how they would handle the shooting.

I heard he waited four days(?) if thats correct, smart man. Also smart (or lucky) there was a fence between him and the officer.

They could't confiscate his phone or silence him on the scene. Probably good advice to wait before uploading video if you get away from the scene with it.

Hear ye, hear ye.
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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I agree 100% with you and share similar views of some of the previous officer involved shootings in the media.

The friends I have that are LEOs all agreed this was a bad shoot, regardless of the taser situation. In their opinion (and this is a few cops from Texas, some from VA, and a few Federal LEOs), is that there was nothing in the situation that warranted lethal force - once the suspect disengaged and fled. At that point, protocol is to pursue and apprehend / call in backup with description and direction of fleeing suspect.

If during that pursuit, the suspect turns and makes a threatening gesture with what looks like a deadly weapon (or starts to raise a gun) then the officer may be justified. Also, if that suspect is known to be armed (key word- known) or if they are wanted for dangerous / violent crimes and there is reason to believe they pose a lethal threat to civilians or other police officers, then the officer would have a better defense.

That is the consensus from my friends who are LEOs - my personal opinion is that this is murder.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: bullcat


So it's still ok to shoot somebody in the back?

Brave people over in that part of the world.



HA!!! Gotta love the foreigners!

Yes.. In America if someone has you attached to 1,000,000 volt + leads, you can shoot them in the back.

I know it sounds crazy, but hey! It's America


(please stop with the Anti-America campaign and join reality)


We have a say in American politics too, since your all over our back yard trampling your dirty boots around it.

I am fine with you telling me to shut the feck up, on one condition, you go home first.



Over here, YOU are the foreigner, well, more like a parasite.



Well I I'm in the USA... have been for over a decade. What's your point kiddo?



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