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Why is it so difficult to Believe in Aliens?

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posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 03:02 AM
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The word "belief" is very dangerous, because, you can also believe in the tooth fairy or Santa Claus. It is associated with childish dreams and visions, and when one uses the word "aliens" and "belief" together, we might as well believe in fairies...

To "know" is a stronger word, however it requires evidence, so, "I know that aliens exist" means that you have met one or seen one, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The safest statement we can use is "It is highly improbable that extraterrestrial life does not exist".

If it is the case that they do, why are they operating "behind the curtain"? - perhaps there is something here that prevents them from entering, or being "seen" - like some kind of "veil" or "cloak".

Such would also be the product of higher technology, perhaps even what borders on magic or the occult from our humble perceptions.

I can tell you of the "core" technologies:

Sound - the power of resonance.
Light - the power of luminescence.
Matter - the ability to manipulate objects on a particulate level.
Gravitation - the ability to control the fabric of space.
Time - the power to control time.

We have hit a "brick wall" here on Earth, the reason is that as you mentioned, different races have their "own" technology, and that means that they have formulated their own models of reality, proven them themselves, and successfully applied them.

We have yet to form a concrete version of "science" to explain our reality, and have yet to realise the "key" - being able to manufacture items that obey these laws.

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posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 03:02 AM
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The "key" is intuition, and unfortunately we are still too "logical" to really understand it.
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posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 04:23 AM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said



Cool,

I cant wait till the aliens riding the pink unicorns drops me some diamonds in my back yard so when I clean the dogs poop I could get a nice surprise.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said




Cool, are we playing the "make up anything that sounds vaguely deep, even if its not true" game now?



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.





That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said




Cool, are we playing the "make up anything that sounds vaguely deep, even if its not true" game now?


It is true..Remember when the world was flat?
Remember when flight was impossible?
Remember when space flight was impossible?
Remember when TV ,Cell phones , computers..ETC were impossible?

Just because you may believe something isn't true or impossible, at some point you will be proven wrong.

I used to say that stuff too. then i wised up and took another look and found clarity



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said




Cool, are we playing the "make up anything that sounds vaguely deep, even if its not true" game now?


I thought that whats the forum was all about in recent times,

There are still a few level headed posters while most have gone off in the deep end of the pool.

I mean some posters having graced our boards lately wanting to disrupt just about every UFO thread they participate in by saying how special they are because the are an expert at Alien contact because they saw an alien and in other threads say they are looking for truth yet refuse to post a thread about their experience because it would too long.

Others that have been for a while saying they can summon UFOs and others claiming and saying a whole lot of other things has made this forum into story telling show, Show and tell like I used to do in primary school, yet not much showing going on, just telling and questions brought forth are misinterpreted and those asking become paid shills.

Some of the stuff posted is a joke and insult to what UFOology used to be and helping the religion its become.

The deep end I tells ya, its deep.

I have lost faith that any disclosures or truth will be found about the goings on in the field, have a lot faith in a new religion will be formed soon.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.





That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said




Cool, are we playing the "make up anything that sounds vaguely deep, even if its not true" game now?


It is true..Remember when the world was flat?
Remember when flight was impossible?
Remember when space flight was impossible?
Remember when TV ,Cell phones , computers..ETC were impossible?

Just because you may believe something isn't true or impossible, at some point you will be proven wrong.

I used to say that stuff too. then i wised up and took another look and found clarity


Awseome...you can link some things that back up your deep thought. That must mean that EVERYTHING is possible right?

With all due respect, if what you ramble on about is "clarity", ill stay in the dark. Thanks.

You and people like are the reason people laugh at UFO believers.


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posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: SPECULUM




It is true..Remember when the world was flat?


No




Remember when flight was impossible?


No




Remember when space flight was impossible?


No,




Remember when TV ,Cell phones , computers..ETC were impossible?


and once again, yes you guessed it,

its No.





Just because you may believe something isn't true or impossible, at some point you will be proven wrong.


You mean like you have with this thread,

Who doesn't believe in alien life as some have pointed out should be the real question as that is quite rare, especially on ATS.





I used to say that stuff too. then i wised up and took another look and found clarity


Ah, so its clear that most do believe.

Cool



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: SPECULUM

At times the denial factor seems to be associated with fear. A fear of the unknown, and so many deny in order to feel stable in their belief systems. 1 feels however if there was more observable activity some in deep denial would begin to rethink their ways of approaching life from various religious and scientific directions...

NAMASTE*******



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Guidance beam so much for being advanced and still using beams

It's amazing how many on here talk about this subject like they have inside info But can NEVER EVER PRODUCE ANY PROOF!



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

You are Absolutely Correct.

In truth it is almost as scary if not as scary as an eminent asteroid strike. To think that not are we not alone in the universe, but to be helpless to beings that cannot be controlled, like a Herpes Virus...Lol

Years ago when i was a heavy Ufo watcher, from time to time when i would have Awesome sitings at the family farm. i would ask my elderly mother to come and see. She would always say that Ufos weren't real, because her faith wouldn't permit it. Then one evening i was showing her a really bright one that was traveling south really ominously, when she said it was only a Satellite...But then it passed under the clouds..I said Ma, do satellites fly under clouds?. she turned and quickly went back in the house and she would never come and witness my sightings ever again..she was Terrified. I used to tell her that if i thought about them they would appear, and that if i thought about them landing in the yard for a visit they might..she would yell at me and tell me to stop, then she would run back in the house and not talk to me for days...Lol



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: wmd_2008

That's fair, But Neither can you. So for the thousands of witness accounts plus documented images...We win..You lose




posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 01:17 PM
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Basically Humankind is lost, we are all searching for something other than the existence we are currently in. We clutch at Gods, Aliens, or any other form of half believable but not logical probablilties. We don't even know the basics yet of who we are? what we are? why we are? or where we are?..... one of our lifetimes is not long enough to learn anything worth knowing. so we are in a quagmire! What to do? Don't stress yourself, try to enjoy life as we do know it. Help others when you can. and just keep paddling to the end... I know that is sad and maybe even morbid but it's not meant to be. it could be the best of our options though, at this time....
and yes I definately do believe in lots of life in the universe besides planet earth... advanced or not who knows, if they can get here i guess they are ahead of us. but are they ahead of all other lifeforms in the universe.... or perhaps they are similar to the village idiot and they have stolen the technology and are joy riding the universe.. just a thought... stay happy



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.



That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


But would it really be a problem in a million years. Imagine where us humans will be then. Look at the technological breakthroughs we've had in just the last hundred years.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.





That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said




Cool, are we playing the "make up anything that sounds vaguely deep, even if its not true" game now?


It is true..Remember when the world was flat?
Remember when flight was impossible?
Remember when space flight was impossible?
Remember when TV ,Cell phones , computers..ETC were impossible?

Just because you may believe something isn't true or impossible, at some point you will be proven wrong.

I used to say that stuff too. then i wised up and took another look and found clarity


Um but no one seriously ever alleged those things were impossible. Difficult to achieve yes, but not impossible. If you're going to make that argument you better have some actual quotes from credible people to back it up.



posted on Apr, 20 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: amazing
It

Many of those earthlike planets are hundreds of thousands if not millions, if not billiions of years older than earth.





That's the problem TIME & DISTANCE, I have no doubt life is out there somewhere, but as said before is it close enough and in the correct time period to visit us THAT is the problem.


We can look through a telescope and see planets and stars. it only takes us to set up and focus. that's about as fast as it takes them to point their guidance beam, and be here. We can not know others Technology and Mathematics. we are mere children with less than 100 years in the Air, and 40 years in space.

Our theories on time and space are Irrelevant


Actually...i think they come here riding on pink unicorns which poop sulfur and diamonds. Since we are making things up that we have no way of knowing , its just as believable as what you are saying. but i have a feeling that my point will be lost on you.


Everyone in time that said something was impossible came to find that later it was possible. With this being said




Cool, are we playing the "make up anything that sounds vaguely deep, even if its not true" game now?


It is true..Remember when the world was flat?
Remember when flight was impossible?
Remember when space flight was impossible?
Remember when TV ,Cell phones , computers..ETC were impossible?

Just because you may believe something isn't true or impossible, at some point you will be proven wrong.

I used to say that stuff too. then i wised up and took another look and found clarity


Um but no one seriously ever alleged those things were impossible. Difficult to achieve yes, but not impossible. If you're going to make that argument you better have some actual quotes from credible people to back it up.



What are you talking about? There isn't a detailed account of the first proposals of Earth being a sphere? There isn't a detailed account of what people thought prior?

It's actually kind of offensive to ignore all the isolated people who still may have never seen flight, space flight or technology, as they aren't serious enough. Or isolated people seeing these things for the first time in the past, and their reaction, but that is not important right?




posted on Apr, 21 2015 @ 07:19 AM
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I love the guys in here including the Op who are speaking with such authority. "Yes they exist", "they are better at hiding than us", "people are scared to admit they are around us", "You are absolutely right! its the fear factor", "they just need to point they beam at our planet and they are here..>"

Love it, its like a very sad comedy show.

Instead of providing a shred of decent proof you guys just adopt the authoritative position "We are right and everyone else is in denial! Or scared". Like bullies who think that being the loudest voice means they are right.


Love the fact that you guys have intimate knowledge of alien presence on earth but you pend all your time on a silly internet forum. Other people are making big waves in the world, getting known, making money, selling their stories/knowledge etc...
You guys who have apparentely had MANY (so many its like the weather!) encounters and all you do it argue with people on ATS.

Such amazing insight into something extraordinary but...no one knows who you are outside of ATS.

"Honey...why dont you find a way of making money from this amazing info you have!?"
"One second, i just to answer all these ATS posts"


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posted on Apr, 22 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014
I love the guys in here including the Op who are speaking with such authority. "Yes they exist", "they are better at hiding than us", "people are scared to admit they are around us", "You are absolutely right! its the fear factor", "they just need to point they beam at our planet and they are here..>"

Love it, its like a very sad comedy show.

Instead of providing a shred of decent proof you guys just adopt the authoritative position "We are right and everyone else is in denial! Or scared". Like bullies who think that being the loudest voice means they are right.


Love the fact that you guys have intimate knowledge of alien presence on earth but you pend all your time on a silly internet forum. Other people are making big waves in the world, getting known, making money, selling their stories/knowledge etc...
You guys who have apparentely had MANY (so many its like the weather!) encounters and all you do it argue with people on ATS.

Such amazing insight into something extraordinary but...no one knows who you are outside of ATS.

"Honey...why dont you find a way of making money from this amazing info you have!?"
"One second, i just to answer all these ATS posts"


Its not about money, its about sharing in the experience. As it is the Human Experience.
ATS may not be the best place to share it, but it Free...Lol






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