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originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: Spider879
History will tell of a far more competent President Obama than the current GOP portrayal being pushed.
We've never expected a president to be perfect until he took office. That's the problem.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: boymonkey74
Had he done any of that....i would be praising him for it.
And he has had some minor victories along the way. The common sense measures in the OP are an example.
Problem is...what he has done screams so loudly it is hard to hear anything else. Especially enslaving the populace to the insurance industry, and what has happened in Mexico.
My problem: i don't think anyone could hold that office without me hating them. But Obama....he really has outdone himself.
originally posted by: here4this
a reply to: Krazysh0t
George Bush is no longer President and has not been for what , 6 years ? This thread is about our current President.
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: here4this
??? I was referring to Bush with that comment. You were describing what looked like a bunch of questionable policies that Obama did and I trumped that by saying none of those policies trumps the illegal war that Bush [omitted] started.
You mean the one the Democrats in Congress voted for thus making the War perfectly legal?
In Recarving Rushmore, the four worst presidents -- falling below both Obama and George W. Bush -- were in rank order: James Polk, William McKinley, Harry Truman, and Woodrow Wilson. James Madison was correct that war is the primary cause of big government in American and world history. War creates a national security state, greater government intervention in domestic society and the economy, and promotes the state's erosion of cherished civil liberties. What these four presidents have in common is that they led the country into needless wars that changed America for the worst. James Polk purposefully started a war with a weak state, Mexico, to steal a third of its land and, in doing so, aggravated regional tensions that eventually led to America's most searing and cataclysmic war -- the Civil War. William McKinley undertook the Spanish-American War to launch the United States, which had revolted against the British Empire, into its own imperial role by acquiring colonies and beginning the long, interrupted trajectory toward America as an interventionist superpower. Harry Truman converted a local war in Greece into an expensive worldwide Cold War against the Soviet Union, which began with a stalemated hot war in non-strategic Korea that led to the creation of the national security state, the imperial presidency, and the shelving of the traditional requirement that the American people, rather than its leader, would decide if war was needed. Finally, Woodrow Wilson, ignoring America's tradition of staying out of Europe's wars, took the nation into World War I, which laid the seeds for the Bolshevik Revolution, Hitler's rise, World War II, and the Cold War.
So Barack Obama is a bad president whose stock is dropping, as I said on the show, because his war against ISIS is likely to make Islamic radicalism and terrorism worse; but Woodrow Wilson is the worst president in American history, because he ruined the 20th century and is now working on the 21st.
originally posted by: MRuss
a reply to: Spider879
Oh my god. He's the president. He's supposed to do things right from time to time.
The fact that you started a thread to demonstrate that he did something right is sad in itself, isn't it?
I mean, think about it. You're basically saying, "Obama did something right! Let's all celebrate!!"
Most of us are mourning the fact that very little went right during his presidency.
In fact, he has proudly marched us to the New World Order faster than any other president. Your time might be better spent preparing for a difficult reality instead of finding one or two things to pat Obummer on the back about.