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Where are (all) the Photos of Ceres?

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posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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I thought this might happen, that this thread would continue and the new Thread with a new picture would go unnoticed.

Dawn has given us an update. Please visit the linked thread and discuss.





posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: game over man
I thought this might happen, that this thread would continue and the new Thread with a new picture would go unnoticed.

Dawn has given us an update. Please visit the linked thread and discuss.



That color image is not a new image. It is a new color-processed version of old images, taken over the past couple of months:


This map-projected view of Ceres was created from images taken by NASA's Dawn spacecraft during its initial approach to the dwarf planet, prior to being captured into orbit in March 2015.
[color emphasis mine]

Source:
Dawn's First Color Map of Ceres


Ceres will not yet appear fully-lit to Ceres from it's vantage point. That wont be for a few weeks yet. For the imaging opportunistic that just past (April 10) and the one coming up(April 14), Ceres will only appear to be a thin crescent; the entire lit surface would not yet be visible to the Dawn spacecraft.

The April 10th imaging opportunity would be of an 18% lit crescent and the April 14 imaging opportunity would be a 25% lit crescent.


edit on 4/13/2015 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

You are correct, thank you! But what is the significance of adding in the color and sending it out now?

During this phase of no pictures, Dawn has been taking temperature readings?


Preliminary examination suggests that different bright regions on Ceres' surface behave differently, said Federico Tosi, investigator from the VIR instrument team at the Institute for Space Astrophysics and Planetology, and the Italian National Institute for Astrophysics, Rome.

Based on observations from NASA's Hubble Space Telescope, planetary scientists have identified 10 bright regions on Ceres' surface. One pair of bright spots, by far the brightest visible marks on Ceres, appears to be located in a region that is similar in temperature to its surroundings. But a different bright feature corresponds to a region that is cooler than the rest of Ceres' surface.


So the bright spots are relatively the same temperature as the surrounding area? But our images of the surrounding area is just a dark grey landscape. If it is ice, reflecting off sunlight, how could the grey landscape being similar in temperature to the white substance (whatever it is)? What kind of temperature are they reading? Atmosphere, air, or ground?

NASA JPL 4-13-15



posted on Apr, 14 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: anogiant
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

There are a lot of things Nasa won't tell.


Like what?
You didn't get the memo? Ill have a talk with management....


So, JadeStar, why do you think the photos are missing?

There are no photos missing....


If that is true, then why does Wikipedia admit there are photos missing???


In images not released to the public, these bright spots could already be seen when the crater rim should still be in the line of sight. This would mean that they are located above the craters, suggesting some kind of outgassing. Moreover, the spots brighten during the day and get fainter at dusk.[64] These bright features have an albedo of about 40%.[65]
en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 05:12 PM
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it bounced back out of the hole it just dug
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Is this an actual event? You know, bouncing meteors, rocks that outshine the sun and whatnot?


edit on 10 27 2013 by donktheclown because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: anogiant
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

There are a lot of things Nasa won't tell.


Like what?
You didn't get the memo? Ill have a talk with management....


So, JadeStar, why do you think the photos are missing?

There are no photos missing....


If that is true, then why does Wikipedia admit there are photos missing???


In images not released to the public, these bright spots could already be seen when the crater rim should still be in the line of sight. This would mean that they are located above the craters, suggesting some kind of outgassing. Moreover, the spots brighten during the day and get fainter at dusk.[64] These bright features have an albedo of about 40%.[65]
en.wikipedia.org...

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Because anyone can edit wikipedia to say whatever they want until the facts are checked and corrected.



posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: donktheclown


it bounced back out of the hole it just dug
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Is this an actual event? You know, bouncing meteors, rocks that outshine the sun and whatnot?

It is my personal analysis of the one photo we have been allowed to see. Go to page 1 of this thread and study the light enhanced photo posted by Soylent Green is People.

To back that up, here is a link to some of NASAs thinking.


Mystery of Ceres’s Bright Spots Grows – Scientific American
Posted on April 16, 2015

What’s lighting up the cold, dead tiny planet of Ceres? The Dawn has gotten a recent closeup of the weird bright spots on the surface of the planet but no one knows exactly what’s causing them. Experts’ best guess is that they are reflections of ice from inside deep caverns,
www.rssr.nl...

If you notice in the photo there is a object slightly oval and just right of the central light. It looks like "The" meteorite that dug that "Deep Cavern". It appears to me that this object is also "reflecting" light" from the central light, and is the second bright spot of feature 5.

Rebound rings can be seen on a few craters on Mars, so it might be possible elsewhere. NASA did not find the expected deep large craters they were expecting on Ceres. It just might be possible that the crust of Ceres is more, "Forgiving" to larger impacts due to a elastic type rebound quality of the crust.



posted on Apr, 17 2015 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: anogiant
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

There are a lot of things Nasa won't tell.


Like what?
You didn't get the memo? Ill have a talk with management....


So, JadeStar, why do you think the photos are missing?

There are no photos missing....


If that is true, then why does Wikipedia admit there are photos missing???


In images not released to the public, these bright spots could already be seen when the crater rim should still be in the line of sight. This would mean that they are located above the craters, suggesting some kind of outgassing. Moreover, the spots brighten during the day and get fainter at dusk.[64] These bright features have an albedo of about 40%.[65]
en.wikipedia.org...

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Because anyone can edit wikipedia to say whatever they want until the facts are checked and corrected.


We already know they are not released to the public. The first GIF file was only about 75% of the rotation. The latest GIF of the crescent only shows about 25% of the rotation. That means 75% of the rotation has not been released.

I believe the WIKI description is correct about photos not being released. If you feel all the photos have been released to the public, edit WIKI yourself. Your anyone, right?



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 12:00 AM
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originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
If that is true, then why does Wikipedia admit there are photos missing???


In images not released to the public, these bright spots could already be seen when the crater rim should still be in the line of sight. This would mean that they are located above the craters, suggesting some kind of outgassing. Moreover, the spots brighten during the day and get fainter at dusk.[64] These bright features have an albedo of about 40%.[65]
en.wikipedia.org...

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"Missing" and "not available to the public" is not the same thing. Some images are just being reserved for study by the scientists involved with the mission, for a certain period of time. Then they are released publically. So nothing is missing.



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
If that is true, then why does Wikipedia admit there are photos missing???


In images not released to the public, these bright spots could already be seen when the crater rim should still be in the line of sight. This would mean that they are located above the craters, suggesting some kind of outgassing. Moreover, the spots brighten during the day and get fainter at dusk.[64] These bright features have an albedo of about 40%.[65]
en.wikipedia.org...

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"Missing" and "not available to the public" is not the same thing. Some images are just being reserved for study by the scientists involved with the mission, for a certain period of time. Then they are released publically. So nothing is missing.


What you really mean is that the images are changed, if they show definite, undeniable evidence of ET causation, and the scientists are told what conventional explanation to release to the public so that it matches the altered photos....



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: micpsi

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
If that is true, then why does Wikipedia admit there are photos missing???


In images not released to the public, these bright spots could already be seen when the crater rim should still be in the line of sight. This would mean that they are located above the craters, suggesting some kind of outgassing. Moreover, the spots brighten during the day and get fainter at dusk.[64] These bright features have an albedo of about 40%.[65]
en.wikipedia.org...

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"Missing" and "not available to the public" is not the same thing. Some images are just being reserved for study by the scientists involved with the mission, for a certain period of time. Then they are released publically. So nothing is missing.


What you really mean is that the images are changed, if they show definite, undeniable evidence of ET causation, and the scientists are told what conventional explanation to release to the public so that it matches the altered photos....


I would hate to think NASA would alter photos, intentionally or otherwise. In as far as Aliens, well, I just don't think they are there. But in saying that, if the photo shows the true nature of planetary formation, then that might be cause to air brush the truth out. It would virtually destroy the institutions on our planet. And maybe some other ones as well.

Science is meant to disclose, not cover, so scientifically if they withhold photos, its just not science, its politics.
If there were any intention to disclose all photos there should be a public Data Base that lists all the photos, so after their final analysis we would know what has and what has not gone public. Checks and balances you might say. Is there such a Catalog? Does anyone know of such a thing?



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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Paranoia is running high, but then I guess it wouldn't be ATS without paranoia.


I think it's right that scientists involved with the mission have exclusive access to the data as it comes in, with the results and images published subsequently.

Like all scientists ever involved with a space mission will keep their mouths shut and let the space agency airbrush things, yeah right...
Especially when it involves something as prestigious and pottentially funding-generating as exo-life.



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 01:02 PM
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Images and other science data are able to be held for a pre-approved proprietory period.
This is so the teams who won bids for the inclusion of their intruments are able to make their own scientific findings before general release. If you had dedicated your life and paid for an instrument you're not going to make the information available instantly so that Joe Blogs (scientist or citizen) can write a paper based on YOUR data.

Contrary to what some people think an entire mission does not belong to 'NASA' or 'ESA' or whoever the primary platform provider is.
Various research organisations can bid to have their instruments included . If successful then they construct it to the specifications requires to interface to the spacecraft's communication and power busses. They then can release their data as they see fit according to a pre-agreed agreement. If they chose to release some or all data early that's up to them.
Often you hear people bleat about taxpayers money, the funny thing is it often doesn't apply to the bleaters because the instrument in question have come from a country or institute that hasn't seen their money! Besides when you work it out your talking literally cents over years per person and you're already getting a lot for your money.

There are plenty of raw data repositories available covering most if not all missions when data is released after the proprietory period. You only have to look, nothing is hidden.



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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Most recent statement from NASA


NASA has promised that, from here on in, the photos of the worldlet will be more and more spectacular as Dawn edges ever closer to Ceres – which is the biggest body in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

www.theregister.co.uk...
Time will tell.



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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The truly strange thing was that, upon inspection of the thermal images from Dawn’s infrared spectrometer, the two bright spots – named feature 1 and feature 5 – gave off a completely different light. Number 1 appeared as a dark blob, suggesting that it’s colder than the surrounding surface; while 5, which appeared as two bright spots in visible light images, disappeared completely. This was “the biggest surprise”, according to Federico Tosi, who works on the Dawn Visible and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (VIR).

rt.com...




Scientists are still not sure if the spots are water, ice, or “hydrated minerals,” but they can say for sure that stable ice would be problematic so close to the sun.

I remember originally they had decided the spectrum of the light was wrong for ice and ruled out a few other things if anyone can remember.



posted on Apr, 18 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: Char-Lee
From your link

Surprises are not entirely unexpected from Ceres – the body that science still isn’t sure how to classify.
I'm going to take a very long shot here, and state the class Ceres should be in.

It should be classed as a "Planetary Core".



posted on Apr, 25 2015 @ 12:45 PM
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waiting....


On May 9, Dawn will begin to make its way to lower orbits to improve the view and provide higher-resolution observations.

www.jpl.nasa.gov...



posted on Apr, 26 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Char-Lee
From your link

Surprises are not entirely unexpected from Ceres – the body that science still isn’t sure how to classify.
I'm going to take a very long shot here, and state the class Ceres should be in.

It should be classed as a "Planetary Core".


Don't let this get around, All Seeing, but I've heard that the bright spot's merely a used spaceship lot, lighted up to attract customers.



posted on Apr, 26 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: Ross 54

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Char-Lee
From your link

Surprises are not entirely unexpected from Ceres – the body that science still isn’t sure how to classify.
I'm going to take a very long shot here, and state the class Ceres should be in.

It should be classed as a "Planetary Core".


Don't let this get around, All Seeing, but I've heard that the bright spot's merely a used spaceship lot, lighted up to attract customers.


I knew they were hiding photos "Rafael's Used Star Cruisers" Neon sign. Boy, when this comes out the media is going to have a field day lol lol



posted on Apr, 26 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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However, Make no mistake about it though, those in the know already know. ~$heopleNation



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