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WATCH: Ted Cruz tells Iowa group that gays are waging ‘jihad’ against Christians

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posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: [post=19230324]Seamrog

How could that be foreign to me?



Your the one marching around calling people immoral, and claiming you know what god's going to do to them. I guarantee no gay has ever gone to that extent with you. I have no idea what god is going to do to anyone.




posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: mahatche

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: mahatche


I just like to challenge Christians who think they have it all figured out, and try to force me to live accordingly.

People need to stop being dicks and allow room for self-determination.




Christians don't believe they have any of it figured out.

It is a discipline of trusting God.

I know by your snide quip that that is totally foreign to you.

Best of luck in your *search.


The snide quip has survived generations of evolution. It has it's place.


What's foreign to you is the fact that your desire to trust your god, is not mine, and it shouldn't have to be.

At least be consistent in your hatred for shoving things down throats.

I'm a homosexualist, but I support the free market handling cake shops how ever it will, I support gays who are delusional enough to do gay therapy, i also find LGBT activists annoying. I'm probably better at not shoving things down your throat than you will ever be. Your religion won't allow it.


If people are stupid enough to turn down commissions that would pay good money just because of their own prejudices, then fair enough - it's a free universe. Never underestimate the ability of people to act like cretins.

EDIT: And please stop using 'homosexualist'! There's no such word!!!


lol i only use homosexualist because seamrog does.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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“You look at the jihad that is being waged right now in Indiana and Arkansas, going after people of faith who respect the biblical teaching that marriage is the union of one man and one woman,” Cruz said.


You know what cruz? those are the same bigots that protested schools being segregated and abortion clinics. why don't he just come out and say that in america, in his eyes, christians should have the right to be prejudice against anyone that is different from them, including gender, sexual preference, religion, and ethnic background.

because that's how i see this.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Yes it IS the standard!

Every business that has hit the news with this sort of thing, the LGBT community has tried to SHUT THEM DOWN....

Yes it IS the standard



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:32 PM
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The main thing that confuses me beyond words at this juncture is:

Why the hell aren't there swarms of LGBT bakeries opening up en masse?

It's the perfect business opportunity.
Strike while the cake is still hot.

I find it difficult to believe there aren't more pro-advocates interested in baking and decorating cakes than there are lazy, angry, finger pointing social justice warriors out there. If you're going to be PRO-ACTIVE, be Pro-freakin'-Active!

It's not like God only made Bigoted Christians with the ability to bake and decorate a flippin' pastry.

Sheesh.

edit on 4/12/15 by GENERAL EYES because: clairifying the damned obvious



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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There’s got to be a middle course here.

Religious people of course shouldn’t be allowed to beat their children to death or stone people in the back yard, or deny their kids medical treatment, but reasonable principles should be respected, imo.


The legitimate principles of NOT supporting what they view as a life-style and ceremony that is inimical to their religious precepts to me is legitimate and should be respected.

Clearly to force someone to support something inimical to their religious principles is problematic in my view.


Non religious people, such as Bill Maher have become tyrannical and intolerant themselves towards people of faith



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Most people who go into a business establishment such as a bakery to order ceremonial material don’t make an issue out of whether it’s a gay or straight marriage ceremony therefore, thank goodness; this issue doesn’t come up all the time.

Bakers, with any sense, I’m sure don’t ask people whether they are taking part in a gay or straight ceremony.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Sremmos80

Yes it IS the standard!

Every business that has hit the news with this sort of thing, the LGBT community has tried to SHUT THEM DOWN....

Yes it IS the standard


And they have failed to shut them down many times. Chick-Fil-a, Baralla, Papa John's Pizza etc... Many are doing great.

What's the problem? Is there something wrong with gays helping spread awareness of an opinion that was made public? It's a vital part of the free market. If you say "This is what my business stands for" and your business stops standing, blame yourself. Isn't self reliance a conservative value? Anyone one that tries to run a business while also rejecting customers can live with their choice. If their business survives, more power to them.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 06:07 PM
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I realize that Ted Cruz has built a fanbase (cult) for himself, and that he is at his narcissistic best up on a soapbox preaching a fire ‘n brimstone sermon to a packed house full of crazed, snake-handling, foaming-at-the-mouth, God fearin’ Pentecostal Fundamentalists. And if that’s his calling, then fine; more power to him. Knock yourself out, Ted! But it’s a quantum leap from some backwoods Church of Christ to the Office of the Presidency. How he made it to the Senate still blows my mind: 1) he hasn’t accomplished a damned thing in terms of legislating, 2) he’s one of the most disruptive and dangerous elements within the Senate, 3) he’s totally lacking in morals, ethics, compassion, a conscience and is void of any positive vision, 4) his agenda completely centers around tearing the system down, and 5) it’s painfully obvious he’s in it strictly for his own personal gain. Seriously, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. Just listen to one of his sermons.

Bottom line is, Ted Cruz plans to claw his way into that Billionaire Boy’s Club up in the clouds, and YOU AIN’T COMIN’ WITH HIM.

One of the things that really bugs me about politics today is that any and everything goes. There are no unwritten laws on how low you’re allowed to go to destroy your opponent. First of all, you start with the assumption that your constituent audience is basically stupid, cowardly and undeserving, and will believe anything you say. That being the case, it’s perfectly OK to lie, cheat, slander and defame your opponent. Viscious personal attacks are best. Honesty and truth have no place in the political toolbox, and are actually considered a sign of weakness. Never consider your opponent to be a patriotic American citizen who happens to have a different view on how to best serve the people, but rather as a vile, despicable, poor excuse for a Human who deserves a slow, torturous death. One of the most effective tools in the political toolbox is a long list of derogatory, scandalous, disrespectful and insinuating words and terms to be used against the enemy. Sprinkle them generously throughout your rhetoric to create an atmosphere of hatred, rage and raw pent-up vengeance. Words/terms like jihad, Muslim, Islamist, Kenyan, not like us, Socialist, anti-business, anti-semitic, Benghazi, gay, fag, welfare, takers, lazy, race-bating and free gifts are just a small sampling of components to be included within the rhetoric of a success-driven campaign.

Note how masterfully Ted Cruz has implemented all the above techniques. It would be funny if not so sad, but the more scandalous, racist and inciteful Cruz gets, the more his groupies love and idolize him. Considering how screwed up America is getting, a Cruz/Palin ticket just might fit the bill. Damn, that’s so weird it's almost surreal...

Hmmm.... Bora Bora is sounding better all the time...



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 06:23 PM
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When people are as rabidly anti homosexual as Ted Cruz, they're usually closet cases.

For a religion that's supposed to be about love of others, Christians sure harbour a ton of hatred against many different groups.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: Seamrog
Ted Cruz is spot on.



The homosexualists are fighting tooth and nail to ram their lifestyle down the throats of Christians - who morally object to that lifestyle.



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You don't have to participate if you don't want to..I don't.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I don't think it is all of the LGBT that want them shut down.

Comments on the internet do not equal the community.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: mahatche

originally posted by: [post=19230324]Seamrog

How could that be foreign to me?



Your the one marching around calling people immoral, and claiming you know what god's going to do to them. I guarantee no gay has ever gone to that extent with you. I have no idea what god is going to do to anyone.



Nope - I've said repeatedly that I'm not the one who sets the rules.

The Creator of the universe set the rules.

We only know what God has revealed to man - He alone is the judge. We only know what He revealed to us.

The homosexualists here have said numerous times that a person with my beliefs is not welcome in this country.

Take your foot and gnaw on it for a while.

What I have said here is validated.

What the homosexualists claim has repeatedly been shown as the ignorant, bigoted and intolerant position.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: Seamrog




What the homosexualists claim has repeatedly been shown as the ignorant, bigoted and intolerant position.


And your stance is the anti of all of that?

Hate begets hate.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: Seamrog

The creator of the universe told you not to eat shellfish, which you do.

So what's your point?



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: mahatche


So because they didn't succeed and shutting some of them down, then that's acceptable?

That's your barometer on if it's okay or not?

I really have to start wondering what the hell people like yours thinking processes must be like




posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: babybunnies
When people are as rabidly anti homosexual as Ted Cruz, they're usually closet cases.

For a religion that's supposed to be about love of others, Christians sure harbour a ton of hatred against many different groups.


How is he rabidly anti-homosexual?

Again another stupid generalization right out of the mouth of left-wing progressive hatemongers

Where did he say anything that was Hate filled at all?

I feel like the comprehension level is down in the ditch, someone says something that Certain bigoted gay person might not like ( yes that even Christians have a right to live and work as they choose) it all of a sudden they are anti-homosexual, they are bigots, there's zealots……

Stupidity.....that's what is on display in this thread

Rabid. Hypocritical. Vitriolic. Stupidity
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posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Bakers, with any sense, I’m sure don’t ask people whether they are taking part in a gay or straight ceremony.


In all my years alive on this planet, I can't think of a single instance when my sexual orientation was called into question when it came time to hand over my money for goods or services.

Once again, the media and the media-obsessed are making mountains out of molehills.

This "issue" has gone so far off the map it's completely extra-solar at this juncture.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Seamrog




What the homosexualists claim has repeatedly been shown as the ignorant, bigoted and intolerant position.


And your stance is the anti of all of that?

Hate begets hate.



How can anyone seriously claim to not know the Christian response to the homosexual agenda? Unless your head has been in the sand for the last decade, this is a silly question and an even sillier statement.

The homosexualists demand - under penalty of law - acceptance of their immorality.

Christians accept the person, and love him enough to reject the immorality he is shoving in our faces.

Christians are not forcing any person suffering from same-sex attraction to reject that attraction.

The homosexualists are attempting to force Christians to accept the acquiescence to those attractions.

Two TOTALLY different responses.



posted on Apr, 12 2015 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: framedragged
a reply to: Seamrog

The creator of the universe told you not to eat shellfish, which you do.

So what's your point?



Totally above your level of thinking.

Sorry.




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