originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Bluesma
YOU were advocating that it's ok for a woman to initiate physical violence against a man because he said something. That is clearly morally
indefensible...as you well know.
Please stop the "as you well know"- I "know" it is your position on the matter, and I respect that. I obviously disagree and hold a different
I think the physical size and strength of men make a difference between the situations. The same threat uttered from a larger male towards a smaller
female does not have the same force as it would if it would be uttered by the female towards the man. The impact upon their mind, and emotions will be
Do you hate men or something?
Absolutely not. Love men! And am sick of hearing this feminist crap about how men need to learn to act like women and somehow kill off their
Is it ok for me to slam a woman's face into a steering wheel of her car if she says something of a sexual nature which either offends or upsets me as
the previous poster you are desperately defending advocated?
Do you advocate equality between genders or is your equality merely selective and sexist in it's nature?
Okay, for one, you are the one who is primarily fixated on another posters particular story- I was addressing the larger question of whether people
should be taught and raised to repress all physical aggressive drives as "bad", and whether there can be contexts in which it is even appropriate
where the threats are verbal.
In the story the other poster described, I don't want to make a judgement, because I am not up on all the details.
For example, the boy who was sexually harrassing the girls - was this something he had a habit of doing, on a regular basis?
Perhaps breaking his nose was a bit much- on the other hand, maybe it wasn't that big a deal for him. A lot of people have had their nose broken many
times, and it isn't as life shattering as you make it sound. I have heard men say they prefer some sort of physical injury than an emotional one,
because physical injuries are more clear cut and easy to understand (the source of the pain is clear) and often doesn't last as long.
But maybe that is more common amongst men who were raised before the current mode of teaching boys masculinity is evil? I don't know.
Maybe the boy remains emotionally scarred from the event.... I don't know. I bet he thinks twice about sexually harrassing girls though. Maybe he is
aware that girls find that very threatening and not funny? Maybe he now knows that they will have their deepest survival instincts stirred by such
threats, and it isn't a joking matter?
I don't know. Like I said, I don't know the details of these individuals and the whole context. But I refuse to make big sweeping statements and moral
judgements- everything has a time and a place.
edit on 15-4-2015 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)