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Obama says ‘days of meddling’ in Latin America are past

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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 02:39 AM
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I wonder. . . . .

does the fact that the House and Senate (under GOP) control now have anything to do with it?




posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 03:18 AM
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originally posted by: Aleister
This will make the neocons chomp on the bit, throw a fit, lament Mitt, with no plans to submit.


Don't be so sure. I'm still thinking nothing changed when GWB left office.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 03:50 AM
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It wasn't too long ago that Obama was willing to meddle with Latin America when Honduras gave the boot to their democratically elected president who when his term was getting close to being finished thought it was a good time to subvert the Honduras constitution and do a little executive pen style change that was done to prolong his term, but the Honduras military stepped in and threw the bastard out and they kicked him right out past the country's border.

Then Obama and Hillary were condemning the Honduras military for defending their own constitutional laws because of Obama's own hatred of our own constitution which has been a real thorn in his side, and it still is.

If Obama is now saying he isn't interested in meddling in Latin American affairs, then he is only saying it for political expediency.
His long pattern of using political speak to use as a prop for his own political gains has already been long established and so he doesn't have any credibility whatsoever for anything he says anymore. He can't be trusted with a single thing because of his rap sheet of dishonesty, stonewalling, Mafia affiliations, bribery, ballot stuffing, forged documents, treason and breaking the oath to defend the constitution and always ignoring the law and assuming no laws apply to him.

Having every branch of government act as his defense attorneys and being shields to thwart the illusion of transparency.

His long standing failures at american diplomacy in every single incident which usually ends with the deaths of good and devoted government employees.

Whatever he is doing here now is guaranteed to be 100% BS.
Wait and see. Same S different day is all that this is.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:35 AM
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The one I liked was Grenada Invasion. What a freakin embarrassment that is the only war we could win.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:40 AM
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: bullcat
O RLY?

www.theguardian.com...

www.zerohedge.com...




With Americans, you have to watch all THREE of their hands.

Using HUMANITARIAN groups to perform such acts, is DISGRACEFUL and LOWEST of the LOW, COWARDS.

As we are told, one can never trust a yank. Been that way well, since, probably the WW2 or longer.

And you know what, most of the time, that is very good advice.


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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
I wonder what meddling he's talking about ??



I assume he means his meddling in Latin American affairs, that seems to be more of confession than a statement.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 07:40 AM
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Applying sanctions against Venezuela, whether you agree with them or not, is not "meddling" in Venezuela's affairs. That is a directly overt action taken by a foreign nation without the subterfuge.

Meddling is using covert means to interfere with a nation. Like all those CIA-sponsored blackops used to overthrow a democratically elected leader.

A history of meddling:

1954

Guatemala - The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Jacob Arbenz in a military coup. Arbenz has threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years.

1959

Haiti - The U.S. military helps "Papa Doc" Duvalier become dictator of Haiti. He creates his own private police force, the "Tonton Macoutes," who terrorize the population with machetes. They will kill over 100,000 during the Duvalier family reign. The U.S. does not protest their dismal human rights record.

1961

The Bay of Pigs - The CIA sends 1,500 Cuban exiles to invade Castro's Cuba. But "Operation Mongoose" fails, due to poor planning, security and backing. The planners had imagined that the invasion will spark a popular uprising against Castro -- which never happens. A promised American air strike also never occurs. This is the CIA's first public setback, causing President Kennedy to fire CIA Director Allen Dulles.

["Before January 1959, Cuba's economy was dominated by US interests, which owned 40% of the sugar production, including seven of the ten largest estates, 90% of the telephone and electricity utilities, the oil refineries, most of the mining industry, and some of the banks." --Oxfam America, Cuba: Going Against the Grain]

["In February 1955, Vice President Richard Nixon traveled to Havana to embrace Batista at the despot's lavish private palace, praise 'the competence and stability' of his regime, award him a medal of honor, and compare him with Abraham Lincoln. Nixon hailed Batista's Cuba as a land that 'shares with us the same democratic ideals of peace, freedom and the dignity of man.'

"When he returned to Washington, the vice president reported to the cabinet that Batista was 'a very remarkable man ... older and wiser ... desirous of doing a good job for Cuba rather than Batista ... concerned about social progress...' And Nixon reported that Batista had vowed to 'deal with the Commies.'

"What Nixon omitted from his report was ... the rampant government corruption under Batista -- and the extreme poverty of most Cubans. The American vice president also ignored Batista's suspension of constitutional guarantees, his dissolution of the country's political parties, and his use of the police and army to murder political opponents. Twenty thousand Cubans reportedly died at the hands of Batista's thugs." --Don Fulsom, The Mob's President: Richard Nixon's Secret Ties to the Mafia]

Dominican Republic - The CIA assassinates Rafael Trujillo, a murderous dictator Washington has supported since 1930. Trujillo's business interests have grown so large (about 60 percent of the economy) that they have begun competing with American business interests.

Ecuador - The CIA-backed military forces the democratically elected President Jose Velasco to resign. Vice President Carlos Arosemana replaces him; the CIA fills the now vacant vice presidency with its own man.

1963

Dominican Republic - The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Juan Bosch in a military coup. The CIA installs a repressive, right-wing junta.

Ecuador - A CIA-backed military coup overthrows President Arosemana, whose independent (not socialist) policies have become unacceptable to Washington. A military junta assumes command, cancels the 1964 elections, and begins abusing human rights.

1964

Brazil - A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the democratically elected government of Joao Goulart. The junta that replaces it will, in the next two decades, become one of the most bloodthirsty in history. General Castelo Branco will create Latin America's first death squads, or bands of secret police who hunt down "communists" for torture, interrogation and murder. Often these "communists" are no more than Branco's political opponents. Later it is revealed that the CIA trains the death squads.

1965

Dominican Republic - A popular rebellion breaks out, promising to reinstall Juan Bosch as the country's elected leader. The revolution is crushed when U.S. Marines land to uphold the military regime by force. The CIA directs everything behind the scenes.

1968

Bolivia - A CIA-organized military operation captures legendary guerilla Che Guevara. The CIA wants to keep him alive for interrogation, but the Bolivian government executes him to prevent worldwide calls for clemency.

1969

Uruguay - The notorious CIA torturer Dan Mitrione arrives in Uruguay, a country torn with political strife. Whereas right-wing forces previously used torture only as a last resort, Mitrione convinces them to use it as a routine, widespread practice. "The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect," is his motto. The torture techniques he teaches to the death squads rival the Nazis'. He eventually becomes so feared that revolutionaries will kidnap and murder him a year later.

1971

Bolivia - After half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Torres. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed.

Haiti - "Papa Doc" Duvalier dies, leaving his 19-year old son "Baby Doc" Duvalier the dictator of Haiti. His son continues his bloody reign with full knowledge of the CIA.

1973

Chile - The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America's first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left.

1979

El Salvador - An idealistic group of young military officers, repulsed by the massacre of the poor, overthrows the right-wing government. However, the U.S. compels the inexperienced officers to include many of the old guard in key positions in their new government. Soon, things are back to "normal" -- the military government is repressing and killing poor civilian protesters. Many of the young military and civilian reformers, finding themselves powerless, resign in disgust.

Nicaragua - Anastasios Somoza II, the CIA-backed dictator, falls. The Marxist Sandinistas take over government, and they are initially popular because of their commitment to land and anti-poverty reform. Somoza had a murderous and hated personal army called the National Guard. Remnants of the Guard will become the Contras, who fight a CIA-backed guerilla war against the Sandinista government throughout the 1980s.

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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

1980

El Salvador - The Archbishop of San Salvador, Oscar Romero, pleads with President Carter "Christian to Christian" to stop aiding the military government slaughtering his people. Carter refuses. Shortly afterwards, right-wing leader Roberto D'Aubuisson has Romero shot through the heart while saying Mass. The country soon dissolves into civil war, with the peasants in the hills fighting against the military government. The CIA and U.S. Armed Forces supply the government with overwhelming military and intelligence superiority. CIA-trained death squads roam the countryside, committing atrocities like that of El Mazote in 1982, where they massacre between 700 and 1000 men, women and children. By 1992, some 63,000 Salvadorans will be killed.

1981

Iran/Contra Begins - The CIA begins selling arms to Iran at high prices, using the profits to arm the Contras fighting the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. President Reagan vows that the Sandinistas will be "pressured" until "they say 'uncle.'" The CIA's Freedom Fighter's Manual disbursed to the Contras includes instruction on economic sabotage, propaganda, extortion, bribery, blackmail, interrogation, torture, murder and political assassination.

1983

Honduras - The CIA gives Honduran military officers the Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual - 1983, which teaches how to torture people. Honduras' notorious "Battalion 316" then uses these techniques, with the CIA's full knowledge, on thousands of leftist dissidents. At least 184 are murdered.

1984

The Boland Amendment - The last of a series of Boland Amendments is passed. These amendments have reduced CIA aid to the Contras; the last one cuts it off completely. However, CIA Director William Casey is already prepared to "hand off" the operation to Colonel Oliver North, who illegally continues supplying the Contras through the CIA's informal, secret, and self-financing network. This includes "humanitarian aid" donated by Adolph Coors and William Simon, and military aid funded by Iranian arms sales.

1986

Eugene Hasenfus - Nicaragua shoots down a C-123 transport plane carrying military supplies to the Contras. The lone survivor, Eugene Hasenfus, turns out to be a CIA employee, as are the two dead pilots. The airplane belongs to Southern Air Transport, a CIA front. The incident makes a mockery of President Reagan's claims that the CIA is not illegally arming the Contras.

Iran/Contra Scandal - Although the details have long been known, the Iran/Contra scandal finally captures the media's attention in 1986. Congress holds hearings, and several key figures (like Oliver North) lie under oath to protect the intelligence community. CIA Director William Casey dies of brain cancer before Congress can question him. All reforms enacted by Congress after the scandal are purely cosmetic.

Haiti - Rising popular revolt in Haiti means that "Baby Doc" Duvalier will remain "President for Life" only if he has a short one. The U.S., which hates instability in a puppet country, flies the despotic Duvalier to the South of France for a comfortable retirement. The CIA then rigs the upcoming elections in favor of another right-wing military strongman. However, violence keeps the country in political turmoil for another four years. The CIA tries to strengthen the military by creating the National Intelligence Service (SIN), which suppresses popular revolt through torture and assassination.

1989

Panama - The U.S. invades Panama to overthrow a dictator of its own making, General Manuel Noriega. Noriega has been on the CIA's payroll since 1966, and has been transporting drugs with the CIA's knowledge since 1972. By the late 80s, Noriega's growing independence and intransigence have angered Washington ... so out he goes.

1990

Haiti - Competing against 10 comparatively wealthy candidates, leftist priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide captures 68 percent of the vote. After only eight months in power, however, the CIA-backed military deposes him. More military dictators brutalize the country, as thousands of Haitian refugees escape the turmoil in barely seaworthy boats. As popular opinion calls for Aristide's return, the CIA begins a disinformation campaign painting the courageous priest as mentally unstable.

1993

Haiti - The chaos in Haiti grows so bad that President Clinton has no choice but to remove the Haitian military dictator, Raoul Cedras, on threat of U.S. invasion. The U.S. occupiers do not arrest Haiti's military leaders for crimes against humanity, but instead ensure their safety and rich retirements. Aristide is returned to power only after being forced to accept an agenda favorable to the country's ruling class.

2002

Venezuela - The CIA attempts to overthrow the democratically elected government of Venezuela. According to intelligence analyst Wayne Madsen, "the CIA provided Special Operations Group personnel, headed by a lieutenant colonel on loan from the U.S. Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, to help organize the coup." Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has irritated the U.S. with his 2001 Hydrocarbon Law, which doubles royalties on foreign oil companies and requires a majority government stake in future joint ventures. Soldiers supporting the coup take control of the presidential palace, arrest Chavez and fly him to the Venezuelan island of La Orchil, where he is imprisoned. Businessman Pedro Carmona claims power. In his first move as president, he dissolves the democratically elected National Assembly, the Supreme Court and other key institutions, while arresting Chavez supporters. The U.S. immediately recognizes the Carmona government. However, the coup soon unravels when thousands of anti-coup protesters surround the presidential palace demanding Hugo Chavez's reinstatement. Two days later, Hugo Chavez triumphantly returns to office.

 


More at: CIA in South America
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
I wonder what meddling he's talking about ??




Importing children to offset the new election cycle.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:19 AM
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My first thought on this is "Oh no, they are planning something! Hope I am wrong but we will see. Now if "something"does happen US can say wasn't us, we told you we are not going to meddle. Given the way many in the US have been duped by their lies in the past, they have every reason to think they can get by with this again.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer
A good informative post. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I was too young to remember 1954 and 1959. But I remember the Bay of Pigs and how it made me feel afraid of the future for the first time.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
Obama says ‘days of meddling’ in Latin America are past
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US President Barack Obama has told Latin American leaders that the days when his country could freely interfere in regional affairs are past.

He was speaking just before the seventh Summit of the Americas was due to kick off in Panama City.

Mr Obama and Cuban leader Raul Castro will meet face-to-face for the first time since a December detente. But their much-anticipated meeting could be overshadowed by tensions between the US and Venezuela.

Mr Obama told a forum of civil society leaders in Panama City that "the days in which our agenda in this hemisphere presumed that the United States could meddle with impunity, those days are past".


Unless, of course, a republican president gets elected, then all bets are off.

The unspoken truth in the US is that America has meddled in Latin America, from Banana Wars to School of the Americas and coup d'etat galore and the "war on drugs," we've meddled on a grand scale. No this is not an earth shattering revelation. Just refreshing that a sitting US president has admitted a stark naked truth. Now for the fun part, where neocon's invent talking points to walk this back.


Yeah, the history of the US "meddling" is absolutely horrific. This history alone destroyed my faith in American foreign policy as being just, about democracy, or human rights. Opposite.

It's about time we acknowledged it.

However, the US is still in full empire mode. I have little faith that the CIA wills top messing around in Latin America.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
I wonder what meddling he's talking about ??




OMG, like 100 years of the US overthrowing regimes, installing dictators, funding civil wars, torturing people, training death squads, etc?

This history is so demonstrable and factual that literally no credible historians disagree about it. It's not conspiracy.

If there is one history to wake Americans up to the evils of US foreign policy and how government/military is being used to suppress people's freedom, not help it, this is it.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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LOL, barry is just mouthing the same self serving BS that a wife beater
spews when the victim starts taking steps to break away or get outside assistance.

"I SWEAR IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN"

meanwhile venezuela, cuba, and reports of US coast guard vessels commiting piracy on the high seas
and the uscg blockade around ecuador, sinking every boat that approaches ecuador, sight unseen.

the only "meddling" barry o and friends are worried about is called BRICS.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: AdamuBureido
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

LOL, barry is just mouthing the same self serving BS that a wife beater
spews when the victim starts taking steps to break away or get outside assistance.

"I SWEAR IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN"

meanwhile venezuela, cuba, and reports of US coast guard vessels commiting piracy on the high seas
and the uscg blockade around ecuador, sinking every boat that approaches ecuador, sight unseen.

the only "meddling" barry o and friends are worried about is called BRICS.


you got proof of the so called piracy by the US navy and coast guard? COuld be cartel or actual pirates painting their vessels in coast guard colors.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

no proof that wont get the sources killed
you'll just have to be patient...

edit please point out where the navy was mentioned?
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: AdamuBureido
a reply to: yuppa

no proof that wont get the sources killed
you'll just have to be patient...

edit please point out where the navy was mentioned?


Sorry thought the coast guard was still under the navy. lol



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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If he lies about EVERYTHING, we're attacking. Double speak bastard can't be trusted.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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I'm sure all the leaders smiled at Obama while saying to each other in Spanish: "how stupid does this gringo think we are?"



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