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Take YOUR Kid Out of School Without Permission? Court Will Take Your Furniture...or Jail Term.

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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: jude11

Sometimes its good to be Scottish, they don't get away with emptying your house up here although Gaol time could quite possibly be an option should the people in question not get there arse in gear and send the wanes to school!

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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: jude11
It's a non-story if you ask me.
I've taken my son on holiday most times out of the official breaks as it is cheaper. Never asked the school once, just lied and said he was sick. If the parents haven't got enough sense to do that then tough I say.

This bailiff situation has not just happened the week after they got back or whatever, they would have had plenty of chance to pay the penalty, in installments if need be, but they obviously ignored it, then it went to court and they ignored it again, so eventually the bailiffs are called. Stupid twats I reckon, it's like those who ignore parking penalties then whinge when their motor gets clamped after ignoring it and ignoring the court.

Oh and for the record, academies are state funded schools in the UK, and anyone can home-school in this country if they wish.
When parents choose to enrol their kids in a state school they enter into a contract, part of which is that holidays in term time need authorisation from the school principal. Now, in my experience most schools are a bit strict about it so it needs to be some exceptional event or whatever, which is why I just lied and said my child was sick. Problem solved.

Again, anyone can home-school if they wish, but if you enter into a contract with a local authority education department don't be whinging when you break their clearly defined rules. I can just imagine these parents thinking that by ignoring the penalty then ignoring the court they would somehow achieve something, lol, probably just media whores.
They could have withdrawn their child from the education system if they don't like the state rules, simply lied and had no problem, or paid the penalty in easy installments. They chose to ignore it all and it ended up with the bailiffs as any debt to the state will.
Tough #, stupid people, no sympathy from me.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Bilk22

The first American public school was in 1635. They did not know what socialism was then. Why don't you republicans back off our education system? I don't want my grandchildren going to snotty private school. Send yours to private schools and leave the rest of us alone.

Who said anything about doing away with public schools? Nice strawman on your part.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Itisnowagain

They don't force kids to go to school in Africa - except maybe South Africa where there are a lot of white people.
They don't even have accessible public education at all in many parts of Africa. How are those African kids doing with no education do ya think?

What do you think education does? It makes one a better slave for the system.
Charity wants you to give money to help educate the African children - and when they are all educated you will be out of work. Why pay such high wages to people in US or UK when the African people are all educated and will do it cheaper and be more thankful?

Africa is not starving because of lack of education, believe it or not.

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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:17 AM
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Al through School may not have imparted any significant knowledge regarding preparation for adult life it certainly supply's the basics which allows children's/young adults intelligence and hunger for knowledge to develop.

Truth be told there have been far more ignorant slaves than intelligent slaves hence the reason education is a good thing. Ignorance is seldom the bliss that people claim it to be.
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Bilk22

Nice strawman on your part.

Do you know about your 'strawman'?




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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Oh, Itsnowagain, can you stop that bull# about the birth certificate, it is simply that, BS.
I'm not even gonna watch that film as it's the same old same old BS. Let me guess, the name written in capital letters, a debt bond attributed to some shady government legislation? Absolute BS.
My birth cert was hand written by fountain pen, upper and lower case, does that mean I'm owned?
Pathetic free-man on the land/strawman crap.

...oh and nobody is required by law to register the birth of their child in the UK but then you lose child benefit, child tax credits, and all the rest of it if you don't. It is still a choice.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: grainofsand
Yes it is a choice but not everyone knows that - it is all hidden under legal speak. Everyone is part of the system so it goes unnoticed. Have you seen the Matrix film?
Of course everyone is encouraged to register their children - the government gives you money. But when anything is registered you become the 'registered keeper' and they can take the child away because it belongs to them.

Parents will be punished for not sending children to school because the system needs the child to earn money to pay the debt - the child is collateral - a bonded slave.


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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Seamrog
a reply to: MOMof3


Annee is the poster child for what the government wants from government schools.


I appreciate that some of you simply cannot believe what she is saying here, but you need to believe it.


This is the goal of the common core.


If you have kids in government schools, this is what they are doing to them.


Believe it.


This has nothing to do with Common Core.

What are they doing to the kids?



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Bilk22

The first American public school was in 1635. They did not know what socialism was then. Why don't you republicans back off our education system? I don't want my grandchildren going to snotty private school. Send yours to private schools and leave the rest of us alone.



The federal department of education was created in the early 1970s and has been a dismal failure.

Eliminating it entirely does not prevent you from choosing to have public school in your locale, there is no need for it to be nationalized.

For clarification, we (me and MOMof3) are talking about the American nationalized public school system.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Of course everyone is encouraged to register their children - the government gives you money. But when anything is registered you become the 'registered keeper' and they can take the child away because it belongs to them.

Parents will be punished for not sending children to school because the system needs the child to earn money to pay the debt - the child is collateral - a bonded slave.


No, that is absolute rubbish.
Local authority social services departments can take any children into care if they feel they are at risk, registered or unregistered, it makes no difference. The mandate is safeguarding children, not safeguarding only registered children. Ridiculous.

And again, in upper case: UK CHILDREN DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO ANY SCHOOL. PARENTS ARE FREE TO HOME-SCHOOL IF THEY WISH.
Bonded slaves in school lol, perhaps you watch too many ridiculous youtube films.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Annee

it shouldn't have to be repaid. it was paid for the school, it should go to the school lol
sounds like gov holding school funds, hostage.


Yes, in more ways than one.

In fact, they should refund that amount to all of the taxpayers though, in the interim, vouchers are the most logical transitional solution. As the public schools lose students (and consequently funds), they will eventually be forced to close and the citizens will win in the end.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: grainofsand
A child is expected to learn so it can go get a job and then pay taxes. It is a fantastic system.
It is nothing but a sophisticated form of slavery.
I am not saying it is wrong - it is what it is.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

I get it. Get rid of dept of education, lose about 11% of funds, translates into losing funds for lunches and Head Start. Part of the overall republican plan, get the poor out of my state. All that will really happen then, is the property taxes will go up.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: grainofsand
A child is expected to learn so it can go get a job and then pay taxes. It is a fantastic system.
It is nothing but a sophisticated form of slavery.
I am not saying it is wrong - it is what it is.

My son had an excellent education in state school, and he is enjoying an excellent education in a state funded college now. When he graduates he will be able to work in pretty much any country needing his skills which are verified by the internationally recognised UK qualifications. He wants to move to Australia. He would not be able to without his 'slave' qualifications.

I think your argument is ridiculous. What kind of slave is free to travel and/or migrate anywhere in the world as a direct result of the qualifications they get from an education system which the parents CHOOSE to send them to?



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: sussy
I would like to point out that this rule of being fined if your child has an un- authorised absent IS NOT NEW!! It has been enforced for many many years. Can I also remind people that in Britain, most schools are run by a governing body. They hire the staff, they allocate the funding for each department and staff wages, they allocate funding for the equipment and they pay the buildings rent and costs. They put forward each year costings and audits on the schools outgoings. The pupil ratio to government money is allocated along with all the other costs. The governing body run the school and each school have policy's that the parent SIGN and are given a copy. These policy's are in place to protect the pupil and safeguard them from the evils of this world. The parents are not blind to the policy.
The head teacher is also governed by these policy's. They are the managers of the school. The policy's are LAW and are in accordance with the children's act.
Which ever way you fine folk want to argue the points of this thread, maybe you should read up a bit on what are the facts in the running of Britsh schools.


I will simply say that novel or not, wrong is still wrong.

If anything, the fact that such a circumstance has been officially allowed to fester is even more damning.
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Bilk22

The first American public school was in 1635. They did not know what socialism was then. Why don't you republicans back off our education system? I don't want my grandchildren going to snotty private school. Send yours to private schools and leave the rest of us alone.

Who said anything about doing away with public schools? Nice strawman on your part.



In fairness, she was probably responding to my vociferous calls for the complete dissolution of the department of education which she took to mean all schools.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: grainofsand


I think your argument is ridiculous.

I think I have just shared in a discussion and it seems as if you are having a ridiculous argument.
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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: grainofsand


I think your argument is ridiculous.

I think I have just shared in a discussion and it seems as if you are having a ridiculous argument.
So which bit of anything I have said is ridiculous?
You are the one making wild claims of bonded school children slaves and all the rest of it. As I said, my son has gone through the UK slave/school system and when he graduates he will be free to emigrate to pretty much any country in the world wanting his skills.
If he had not gone through this system he would be stuck as an unskilled worker in the UK.
...as an aside, I note that most of the folk who bleat "education system slaves" "Bonded servitude" etc, are usually on minimum wage working in a factory without a chance of any country wanting their lack of skills and education.
Does that describe your good self?




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