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New Studies Say Genes Cause Rapists, Shortness and Heart Disease

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posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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Erm. Sorry. There is no “gene for” cancer, or Alzheimer’s, or heart disease, or diabetes. Or height. But the claims don’t quit. Now, two new studies profess to show a genetic basis for rapists’ inclinations and as well, the link between height and heart disease (short people are more likely to have heart disease). Researchers haven’t found “the gene” of course (it’s not there), but they did find a bunch of common “genetic markers.” And blithely ignored the fact that those “genetic markers” may not come from DNA, but likely are inherited epigenetic effects, misfolded proteins and/or prions.

Let’s back up a moment and look at the “big three” killer chronic diseases - heart disease, cancer and diabetes - all genetic, according to mainstream geneticists. Rates of these three diseases skyrocketed over the past 50-odd years. World-wide. Pandemic “NCD’s” (non-communicable chronic diseases) were projected to kill 37 million people in 2011, and cost $47 Trillion between 2011 and 2020. Geneticists dismiss the idea of environmental cause - insisting that people with “superior” genes can handle environmental assaults, while those with “inferior” genes succumb. So if these diseases are genetic, it’s a Genetic Disease Pandemic.

How Does Science Explain the Genetic Disease Pandemic?

Genes are passed down through the generations, and humans procreate sexually. The Genetic Disease Pandemic is new, so it means someone contaminated a sizable segment of the human gene pool by inseminating contaminated semen into millions of women world-wide, about 3-5 generations back. No other way to explain skyrocketing global rates of genetic disease. [Human females have relatively limited reproductive capacities - so the responsible party had to be male.] However, given the physical limitations of the male human body, and not to mention the parallel pandemic of soaring human infertility and erectile dysfunction in human males, the culpable skank was clearly not human. Thus, there’s no other logical and rational explanation: the aliens did it; they contaminated the human gene pool.


Pandemic Genetic Disease: The Mystery Solved

Cancer, heart disease and diabetes suddenly escalated from being very rare to going pandemic in about 50 years, killing 37 million people in 2011. In addition, other chronic diseases including infertility, erectile dysfunction and a range of other diseases are also pandemic.

How could a group of rare genetic diseases spread around the world to over 37 million people in just 50 years?

Let’s do the math.

Clearly, five genetically inferior identical quintuplet world-travelling horny toad brothers are responsible. Each of those genetically inferior brothers impregnated 3 women per day for 30 years, and their genetic inferiority was passed to 985,500 individuals who all survived to reproduce. Predictably, the fecundity fell, but each of those offspring reproduced 5 times, and there were 4,927,500 genetically contaminated children in the second generation. Infertility, erectile dysfunction and chronic disease took its toll; the third generation produced only 3 offspring per, for a total of 14,782,500 genetically contaminated heirs. This fourth generation all bore 2 children each, creating 29,565,000 inferior descendants to contaminate the human gene pool. Due to early death, rampant debilitating disease, erectile dysfunction and etc., the fifth generation produced only 37,000,000 genetically contaminated and inferior offspring, who all died in 2011. End of story; no problem; nothing to see here.

Human Inheritance: The Rise and Fall of Rare Genetic Diseases, and the Concomitant Disappearance of the Contaminated Component of the Human Gene Pool



Genetic? Nah. Atherosclerosis is more likely to be an inherited prion disease that affects height by redirecting metabolic energy. But our vaunted leaders are too invested in the genetic paradigm to let the DNA Solution go - they don’t want to admit anything except that their own “superiority” results from their own “superior” DNA (and ditto for others’ “inferiority”). All bullpuckey of course. But there’s too much money on the table at this point.

Genetically Determined Height and Coronary Artery Disease
Shorter height is directly associated with increased risk of coronary heart disease
Sexual offending runs in families: A 37-year nationwide study
Genetic link to sex crime found: but will it help prevent abuse?


It’s all about the money, and control. And weaseling out of insurance coverage, and not protecting peoples’ right to employment. For starters. Conservative Canada is leading the charge to focus on DNA - putting BIG money into genomics - and ignoring breakthroughs in epigenetics, metabolomics and etc.. And silencing scientists who buck the trend. Note that Canada does NOT protect peoples’ right to genetic privacy.


Genetic Tests May Affect Insurance, Employment

…Unlike other countries including the U.S., U.K., and Japan, Canada has no legislation that protects you from having to disclose your test results to employers and insurance companies, despite a promise by the federal government in 2013 to introduce protective measures.

And a bill currently before the Senate has lost some of its key protections, including prohibiting anyone from forcing you to take a genetic test or reveal the results.

…”There's nothing to prevent an employer or an insurer or anybody else providing any other kind of service, about saying, 'Have you ever had a genetic test? And if so, what are the results of that test?'" he said.


Genome Canada to create ‘innovation network’ of 10 research centres

….the new network will include substantial investments in Canada’s capacity to do bioinformatics, which marries computing power with the reams of data now available as genetic sequences accumulate. Analysis of such data has already yielded important breakthroughs in identifying the causes of genetically inherited diseases and in spotting genetically based susceptibilities to more complex maladies such as cancer and diabetes. [tsk]

….“I think by merging these various centres into a network there will be more expectation that they are going to work more collaboratively than they may have done,“ said Paul Lasko, a McGill University researcher and scientific director of the Institute of Genetics, part of the Canadian Institutes of Health Research. [Translation: Control over research directions, silencing scientists]


The politics of genetic discrimination



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posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:14 PM
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I'm calling the rapist gene bull. It doesn't matter what your genetics, we are supposed to be conditioned to follow the main rules of society. Raping is not good, we are not supposed to be doing it. Learned behavior can trump genetics on this kind of stuff.

You are right Sofi, there is not even a gene for cancer. Problematic genetics do not have to get expressed. Genetics can only show you are at more risk for things.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

Lateral Gene Transfer (LGT) en.wikipedia.org...

Explain this to me, does LGT mean genes alien to the human being?
Like from a plant or a dog? Just asking.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: soficrow


Now, two new studies profess to show a genetic basis for rapists’ inclinations…


I thought rape causes rapists. Do unto others as you would have them do unto others?

Any way, thats interesting…


The Genetic Disease Pandemic is new, so it means someone contaminated a sizable segment of the human gene pool by inseminating contaminated semen into millions of women world-wide, about 3-5 generations back.

That is to say something infected the semen, like toxins? Genetic mutation due to environmental pollutions is well understood. They are deflecting it to "genetics" instead of what caused the mutations that led to certain "diseases".

For instance, the butterfly study in Japan after Fukushima allowed biologists to study several generations of butterflies in short order. They determined that succeeding generations of butterflies exhibited more genetic mutations than the last ones.

So the rads are gone but the mutations remain, passed on and amplified in each new generation. Now the problem appears to be genetic…



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

All you people replying are probably the same people saying that people are born gay....

You can't have it both ways peeps!

BTW....You aren't born a rapist, you aren't born a serial killer & you aren't born GAY!!

They are all choices one makes in their life...



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
I'm calling the rapist gene bull. It doesn't matter what your genetics, we are supposed to be conditioned to follow the main rules of society. Raping is not good, we are not supposed to be doing it. Learned behavior can trump genetics on this kind of stuff.

You are right Sofi, there is not even a gene for cancer. Problematic genetics do not have to get expressed. Genetics can only show you are at more risk for things.


Thanks rickymouse but just to be clear: So-called "genetics" looks at gene products (proteins), not just genes. And 99% of the time the genes are perfectly fine - it's just the proteins that are messed up. So the so-called "genetic risk" is NOT genetic - it's epigenetic - and while epigenetic markers, misfiled proteins and prions can be inherited, they are NOT permanently encoded "in the genes."



Just to be clear. Again. ; )



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: wasaka
a reply to: soficrow

Lateral Gene Transfer (LGT) en.wikipedia.org...

Explain this to me, does LGT mean genes alien to the human being?
Like from a plant or a dog? Just asking.


Good questions. Not answered yet. But there's lots of evidence for gene transfer between species, families and kingdoms. And those antibiotic resistance genes definitely get around laterally, even across species.

Unfortunately, tptb are totally committed to "genetics" and probably won't be funding research to answer the really good questions.



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posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Exactly. If a kid grows up with examples of sexual predators to learn from in his or her formative years, then he or she is going to perpetuate those behaviors.

This is why it's important for a child to have two good role models from each gender deeply involved in his or her life. They learn how men behave and how women behave and how men treat women and how women treat men through those examples.

Genes have little to do with that. It's going to be nurture there.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

Nope. That ain't it. They're not talking about genetic mutations - just aberrant genetic products (proteins). Which leads to epigenetics.



...you might as well forget about natural selection because what does it mean "selection" when the organism keeps changing according to environmental conditions?

We now know that at the molecular level that is precisely what happens. There are these epigenetic changes that respond to the environment. . . .

The moral of all that is that this DNA-centered view is really completely mistaken and outmoded. There is no DNA determinism.
DNA or RNA does not equal life. They are kind of like memory molecules but the memory gets rewritten.


Human Genome Shrinks To Only 19,000 genes

Biologists once thought humans had 2 million genes. Now it turns out we have fewer than nematode worms

Humans are more closely related to flies and worms than previously thought, genome studes suggest



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

Nope. You need to catch up.

This is about epigenetic-driven evolution versus DNA determinism. At the core. As far as choices go - we have them, just not the ones we might think we have.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I agree in general but suspect there's a bit of epigenetic coding going on too.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

Uh huh.....



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: soficrow


In biology, epigenetics is the study of cellular and physiological trait variations that are not caused by changes in the DNA sequence; epigenetics describes the study of dynamic alterations in the transcriptional potential of a cell. These alterations may or may not be heritable, although the use of the term epigenetic to describe processes that are not heritable is controversial.


So tell me about the controversy here.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

Everyone should know by now that any given "study" that you're ever going to hear about is/has been conducted (orchestrated, I might say) with certain preordained conclusions.

These "studies" that are done by "our great learned ones" are a great way to convince millions of people to accept a certain thing without arguing with them.

So. Whatever. Maybe it's genetic and maybe it isn't but whatever the official line is, I always wonder what they're up to.



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

So you're leaning toward the camp that will eventually bring us to the day when the lawyer will say, "You're honor my client pleads not guilty by reason of DNA. His genetics led him to the act, so how could he do otherwise?"

This then will lead to the day when people will be genetically screened for these predisposition and either not allowed to have children with certain other people or babies will be aborted wholesale because they might be potential future rapists.

Eugenics!



posted on Apr, 9 2015 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: soficrow

My mother and biological father both died from heart attacks before the age of 40....I'll be 40 in just shy of a month.

I suppose I should be a tad worried huh?



posted on Apr, 10 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: soficrow


In biology, epigenetics is the study of cellular and physiological trait variations that are not caused by changes in the DNA sequence; epigenetics describes the study of dynamic alterations in the transcriptional potential of a cell. These alterations may or may not be heritable, although the use of the term epigenetic to describe processes that are not heritable is controversial.


So tell me about the controversy here.


By definition, epigenetic changes are heritable (without changes to the DNA). In addition, epigenetic mechanisms cause changes that are not passed on - so the controversy involves whether or not to include non-heritable changes in the definition of "epigenetic."



posted on Apr, 10 2015 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: MagesticEsoteric


I suppose I should be a tad worried huh?

About death? Nah. Everyone does that. It'll be alright.

Hunter said, It never really got weird enough for me.



posted on Apr, 10 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: soficrow

So then genes are subject to mutations caused by other than hereditary ones. Is that such a mystery? Or just a new term to distract from what is mutating our genes, namely environmental pollution? You seem to miss that simple point?



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