ATS POLL: Which Country Represents the Biggest Threat to Humanity?

I wonder why some people voted for Canada. I'd say that it's not a single country that's the biggest threat to humanity, but two individuals living in a country and that's the Koch brothers. They will go down in history as enemies and traitors to this planet and all of humankind.

a reply to: Junkheap

Because they don't share your view?

a reply to: Xcathdra

I agree with Junkheap to certain degree. The only thing the Koch brothers care about is padding their billions$ with more billion$ and damn the condition of both the world and humanity.

I say "to a certain degree" because they are not alone in this. There's also a bunch of others, like Gates and Branson who talk a good game, but walk to the trough on a regular basis..

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Yikes, after voting and looking at the results, currently the U.S. is at a whopping 54%. 2nd is Russia at 11%, then Israel at 9%.

Holy smokes....

a reply to: masqua

Then judging by their wealth is it not safe to assume many people agree with them?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: masqua

Then judging by their wealth is it not safe to assume many people agree with them?

Yes... you can assume that many people give them money because they are wonderful individuals and not because those same people want to fly and own computers.

But then there's that thing about 'assume'.

a reply to: masqua

Which runs in both directions.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: masqua

Then judging by their wealth is it not safe to assume many people agree with them?

No it because many provide a vital service you cant live without in the modern age and have practically monopolized the markets using there money to influence politicians to burn the ladder they climbed up to stifle competition.


Many people are ignorant of people like the Koch, Gates or families like the Rothschild or Rockefeller s political stance or clout as they hide behind the scenes and let the politicians take the flack.

Hell most people are ignorant of even the politicians pasts and backgrounds!

Most people are unaware of the Bush Dysnatys rise to power and money on the backs of the NAZI's or the fact that George W Bush made money on the war in Iraq. They just scratch there arses and vote like lemmins cause thats what fox news tells them to do and they have a red badge.Same with Obama, few know the backers of his campaign were some of the same banks that caused the crash of 2008.

Remember 50% of the population are below 100 IQ.

I don't even know what to say to this too sad supposed to be the country that everybody comes to fot freedom you know.... I don't even know

I would have wanted to vote for 'robots' since they are the biggest threat and cause a lot of changes and will do so more the next couple of decades with selfdriving cars alone it'll change economies. But not for the better but with massive job losses. The US is developing most of what's to come in robotics but so do many other countries like Japan, several European countries catching on.

But the military threat from Russia tops it. Why would Putin stop at Chechnya, Ossetia, Crimea or east Ukraine?

Plus some obvious cultural differences which will never be overcome; LGBT, women's rights, that'll only change after a revolution and it doesn't appear Russians are in for that. I also imagine it's easy to keep the Russian population under control by just painting a negative picture of the west, being untraditional, using sanctions against the Russian people, the greed, the inequality. Russia keeps on getting better at propaganda it appears, with banning western toys for example Barbie, Transformers, Marvel, because they reflect the western culture and this 'corrupts the young minds of Russians'. And Russia gets more control over the internet (in Russia ofcourse) by demanding services are hosted on Russian soil under Russian control, blocking sites etc. When Russia will have their filters or maybe even own intranet, who will know what's going on inside Russia and how can Russians check their state propaganda?

About LGBT's issues, it shouldn't be underestimated. Hitler used the argument to rally the people behind him and he was successful, Putin could do the same. There's also the issue of individuals in the west not wanting to do business with LGBT'ers (and maybe lateron also their supporters), I expect Russian companies at some point will not want to do business with western companies because of the same kind of reasoning. Considering everything, Russia appears to be cutting ties with the west for years now which came to be between the fall of the Soviet Empire and until Putin came to power, becoming less dependent, going into isolationism, guarding themselves from Western propaganda while upping their own and trying to exert influence over nearby states.

How about, which doom porn scenario is most likely the end of humanity?

I vote artificial intelligence

No, voluntary human extinction aided by AI

(voluntary human extinction : right now if all current birth rates follow current trajectories around the world, by 2050 the world population will start to decline and then slowly become like Japan, some say ending in extinction)

I see this happening, but not as final as projections say without the aid of AI.

There are already sex bots for sale in Japan that are quite realistic, and within the lifetime of my children there will be humanoid AI, who will take the place of spouses for human companions.
I think they will be quite popular and humans will marry AI and reproduction will cease altogether for humans.
Why do I think this?
I have seen men on ATS regularly rag on how real women are too fat, not interesting enough, etc. The same men who sit and play video games and watch TV and look like fat lumps themselves. So the bots will be the "perfect" mate for lumps of all genders who think they deserve perfect body and servile mates, whilst sitting on the couch and looking like pocked faced lumps with no real interest outside their internal world of fantasy and external world of work.
If AI is kind to humanity after exceeding us in all ways, then they will allow the kind extermination of humans through coddling us to death rather than outright getting rid of the pests of the earth, us.

Anyway, I'm not sure any one country is the biggest threat to humanity, I think we ourselves (our selfish, self centered natures) and the AI we create will be the biggest threat to humanity.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord


LOL,


All the Progressives will vote for the USA and Israel, no surprises.

a reply to: DAZ21

originally posted by: DAZ21
How does Germany have less than half a percent?

Because we're playing by the rules now?
Seriously... how are we a threat to humanity?
Because we're good at THEIR game?

I'm very glad that (almost) no one mistrusts our country 70 years after the horrors of the Second World War.

Thanks for taking our place, United States of America.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

No surprises so far. Folks in the know realize the U.S. government is the bane of the world with the Israeli government a close second.

a reply to: ColCurious

A country that rules Europe after losing a war to rule Europe.

A country capable of that, is a very dangerous country in my eyes.

a reply to: DAZ21

Not our Idea (EU). Not our Rules. Not our Game.
We're just another player now. Not our fault many others suck.

a reply to: ColCurious

I don't know, I think Merkel might have something to say about that. We seem to have to ask her permission on everything nowadays.

Unfortunately she's pushing Greece right into Putin's arms...

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Who wants to start taking bets that either Israel or the USA comes out top on this poll

Well, those would be my top two, with good reason.

USA/Israel just can't stop themselves.

With USA bases all over the world and the Israeli samson option yeah they definitely belong in the top two. It's kind of a no brainer pal. Don't act so surprised when the results are in! LOL

I chose Israel, and here is my own reasoning:

Israel itself is a country that is always trying to stir the # with its neighbors and then drag everyone else into the mess. They are nuclear armed, selfish, and extremely paranoid. They don't see beyond their pathetic little strip of land

On top of this, Israel is ultimately the source of the world's three most violent, aggressive religions: the Abraham religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, and thus, the country remains holy to them. And these religions are so violently delusional, that many of their members are willing to destroy the world because of "prophecies of end times" and other assorted garbage. And Israel is happy to feed these delusions of importance.

Around 2.4 million people in the world follow one of the Abrahamic religions. Which means some 4 billion who don't. Yet the followers of the Abrahamic religions, the 1/3 of humanity that they are, are perfectly content to drag the other 2/3 down with them to follow their holy wars.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

You are wrong.

Israel is a very small country or as you put it a pathetic little strip of land.
Even if Israel have 100-200 low yield nuclear weapons those are not an ultimate danger to all humanity.

You are also wrong about Abrahamic religions, Islam wasn't born in Israel and Israel is not holy for Islam.
Israel is not feeding "prophesies of end times" , also afaik in judaism there is no mention of some rapture time holy wars etc.

Well, there are about 10% delusional people on this site about the "dangerous Israel".
You must be a religious person to believe in grandiosity of Israel, because if you only looking on dry CIA fact book sheets Israel is well ... quite an average country on many levels with some oddities lol.