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In fact I personally think that someone who has a history of abortions should have some kind of intervention. Mandatory sterilization or birth control....
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Can someone explain the legal basis for the fetus being a "human life" if and only if it is not a medical threat to the mother?
I mean, either the fetus is a human and aborting is murder ... or it's not.
Right?
How can something be murder and not murder at the same time? Legally that is.
I am pro choice, just seems like 13 weeks is a little long to make that choice.
For us, My angel Cole’s story started when my alpha-fetal protein came back elevated. There are false positives all the time we were told but were still advised to see a specialist. We scheduled our 18-week ultrasound with a specialist in Denver, Dr. Henry. We like surprises so we chose not to find out the sex until he/she was born, no matter what.
It was during our ultrasound that our nightmare began. As the ultrasound technician was “trying to get a good picture of the brain” she said she needed to have Dr. Henry come in to talk to us. The first words out of my husband’s mouth were “holy #, this is bad.” I am a pharmacist and my husband is a physician and has seen his share of ultrasounds. When Dr. Henry and the ultrasound technician returned they explained to us that our baby had a massive inter-hemispheric cyst separating the 2 halves of his brain, encompassing the entire top and back portion of his skull cavity. He had Agenesis of the Corpus Callosum as a result of the cyst. His hands were also in such a position to indicate severe neurological deficit.
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After many, many tears shed and what-ifs played out in our head we made the heartbreaking choice to end the pregnancy. We were both raised catholic; this was NEVER a decision we EVER though we would need to make.
www.aheartbreakingchoice.com...
originally posted by: olaru12
Fantastic....
Let's bring back the good old days with the clothes hangers, Drano, over doses of cytotec, and the bus rides to Juarez. Of course the wealthier women will probably opt for the Cabo or Cozumil trip with a little cosmetic dentistry thrown in.
This law won't stop one abortion. Any woman that wants to induce premature labor can readily find the information on line. This is just more pandering to the Right Wing Christian political base. How can anyone think this move won't blow up in the conservatives face with this war on the poor and especially poor women. If they find their political voice....watch out.
The naivete of the Right never ceases to astonish me....gee Dorothy, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore!!
There are still more monsters out there like this guy! Guess you don't really care about the safety of those women wanting abortions?
From the moment of conception, a new, unique human life exists.
Left to nature, it would emerge entirely on it's own.
Unless the mother, well, murders it.
However, there's some serious problems with the logic of ensoulation at the point of conception. The CDC as well as the March of Dimes and several fertility experts have conducted studies to see exactly how hard it is to carry a pregnancy to term. In general, less than 70% of all fertilized eggs will even implant into the mother's womb causing pregnancy to continue. From there, there is a 25-50% chance of aborting before you even know you are pregnant. If, however, you make it to your first month, your odds go up to 75% chance of carrying to term. So if you look at it from the point of all those little souls being given a home, only to be miscarried before they even know they are alive.
Scientific research has compiled the following information about the rates of naturally aborted pregnancies in human beings.
This chart assumes that 200 eggs are in an environment with sperm nearby.
Why do some women wait so long? The answer is that comprehensive fetal testing, such as anatomical sonograms and ultrasounds of the heart, are typically performed just before 20 weeks of gestation. Such scans are critical for uncovering major birth defects, such as anencephaly (severe brain malformations), major heart defects, missing organs and limbs, and other severe birth defects. Fetal development is a complex process that often goes awry. Roughly 2 percent of all pregnancies are complicated by a major birth defect, and of those about 0.5 percent have a chromosomal defect, such as an extra or missing segment of normal DNA. Birth defects are a leading cause of infant mortality, and in many cases of severe birth defects, no medical treatment can salvage a fetus’s life or result in any measure of normal future health.
I'm beginning to get some evidence from certain doctors and scientists that have done, uh, research on women's wombs after they've gone through the surgery. And they've compared the wombs of women who were on birth control pill versus those who were not on birth control pill, and they have found that with women who were on the birth control pill there are these little tiny fetuses—these little babies—embedded into the womb. They're just, like, dead babies! On the inside of the womb. And these wombs of women who have been on the birth control pill effectively have become graveyards for lots and lots of little babies.
jezebel.com...
originally posted by: windword
OMG!
And that number doesn't even include all of the tiny little baby humans killed by birth control pills!
originally posted by: Seamrog
An abortion is the deliberate murder of a human being.
In this example, defenseless babies are hacked into pieces.
There is no defense for this, and there will never be a defense for this.
It is murder of innocents, and there is never any justification for that.
From the moment of conception, a new, unique human life exists.
Left to nature, it would emerge entirely on it's own.
Unless the mother, well, murders it.