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Are they lying about how many Marines have died in Iraq?

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posted on Dec, 20 2004 @ 01:05 PM
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Are we being told about every fatality that occurs in Iraq?

It seems as though we are not.

In a recent article, they mention that six Marines were killed on Friday the 17th but those deaths haven't been publicly announced yet.


yahoo (AFP)
But according to Major Jim West of the First Marine Expeditionary Force "every day that goes by, the Iraqi national forces are getting better, stronger, and in parallel the Iraqi insurgents are getting weaker."

West and Wilson insisted however that fighting that broke out Friday in Fallujah, which left six marines dead, was not an example failure.

"We are not talking of a setback, but just about insurgents hiding in houses for a chance to kill a soldier," Wilson said.


There was another instance in which an insurgent video showed a killed US soldier and showed his name that was on his uniform but even weeks after that video was released, there was no mention of his name on any casualty report.

It makes me wonder how many have really died.




posted on Dec, 20 2004 @ 02:22 PM
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What I am more concered about is the total lack of information being released about events unfolding in Fallujah. The US military has not allowed any reporters or even aid workers (which is a violation of the geneva convention) to enter the city.

Resistance groups are reporting that the US have suffered very heavy troop/vehicle casulities in recent battles in Fallujah, but without any western news coverage in the city there is no way of comparing sources.

What is more mysterious is the fact that re-newed airstrikes and large clouds of smoke have been seen bilowing from the city, which would suggest that the resistance is still fighting.

This battle seems to be taking an awful long time concidering the Americans stated a few weeks ago that they occupied most of the city.




posted on Dec, 20 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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Ever wondered why the Israelis bulldoze and level houses ? To punish and to take away refuge. Well, in this case, it would appear that aerial bombs and artillery is being used. They started something and it probably is getting pretty ugly in there. Hence, no news, total and complete blackout. Will take awhile to sanitize the place. No witnesses, no accusations. Victims are all dead "terrorists".



posted on Dec, 20 2004 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by dixon
Ever wondered why the Israelis bulldoze and level houses ? To punish and to take away refuge. Well, in this case, it would appear that aerial bombs and artillery is being used. They started something and it probably is getting pretty ugly in there. Hence, no news, total and complete blackout. Will take awhile to sanitize the place. No witnesses, no accusations. Victims are all dead "terrorists".


The problem with that theory is that bombing buildings tend to create more cover not less. In an untouched building a person would know where possible threats could come from (doors, windows, roof etc), however if a building is destroyed to rubble it creates hundreds of small random gaps in which to attack from.

It happened in Stalingrad during WWII, the Russian's initially pulled out of some parts of the city and let the Nazi's bomb it to rubble, then they moved into the rumble and attacked.



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