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Why have Conservatives backed themselves into a corner?

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posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Introduced in the House of Representatives as H.R. 3162 by Frank J. Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R–WI) on October 23, 2001
Committee consideration by United States House Committee on the Judiciary; Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence; Committee on Financial Services; Committee on International Relations; Committee on Energy and Commerce (Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet); Committee on Education and the Workforce; Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure; Committee on Armed Services
Passed the House on October 24, 2001 (Yeas: 357; Nays: 66)
Passed the Senate on October 25, 2001 (Yeas: 98; Nays: 1)
Signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001




posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:01 AM
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Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995, US Senate bills S.390 and S.761. Senator Joe Biden introduced the bill on behalf of the Clinton Administration on Feb. 10, 1995. The bill was co sponsored by Senators Alfonse D'Amato, Dianne Feinstein, Robert J. Kerrey, Herb Kohl, Jon Kyl, Barbara A. Mikulski and Arlen Specter. Representative Chuck Schumer sponsored the bill (H.R. 896) in the US House of Representatives. Following closely on the heels of Executive Order 12947, prohibiting transactions with terrorists, President Clinton described the bill as a "comprehensive effort to strengthen the ability of the United States to deter terrorist acts and punish those who aid or abet any international terrorist activity in the United States" and requested "the prompt and favorable consideration of this legislative proposal by the Congress".

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995






posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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It contained the following seven provisions:[6]

I don't see a provision regarding search and seizures of American citizens.

Title I: Substantive Criminal Law Enhancements

Title II: Immigration Law Improvements

Title III: Controls Over Terrorist Fund-Raising

Title IV: Convention on the Marking of Plastic Explosives

Title V: Nuclear Materials

Title VI: Procedural and Technical Corrections and Improvements

Title VII: Antiterrorism Assistance





edit on 11-4-2015 by MOMof3 because: grammar



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:29 AM
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Pres. Barack Obama vowed when he signed the 2012 NDAA into law on December 31, 2011 that he would not use the indefinite detention powers provided to him by Congress.

When that provision was challenged in federal court, however, the White House fought back adamantly and appealed a District Court ruling that initially reversed the indefinite detention clause, eventually sending the challenge to the Supreme Court where it stalled until earlier this month with the justices there said they would not consider the case.

obama.will.detain.you




posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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An amendment introduced in the House on Wednesday this week asked that Congress repeal a controversial provision placed in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 that has ever since provided the executive branch with the power to arrest and detain indefinitely any US citizen thought to be affiliated with Al-Qaeda or associated organizations.

This is about terrorist. I am not on any terrorist list so they had no reason to stop me in AZ. They had no reason to stop my brother in law and SEARCH his car. We have family down there that we use to visit.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Washington State has a "reputation" among out of state law enforcement.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: pyramid head

Nobody kneels to anyone and nobody ever should... There's no point in arguing whose fat cats are better than whose, they're all terrible people.


You do kneel, to a queen, and you said come to England, implying everyone gets along, unlike the US(your fat cats our better than our).

Simply pointing out that here in America, that blatant subjugation to a figure head is nauseating(to most, and for now)and that the fact our politicians are most often inept, corrupt, and worthless, doesn't mean your countries happy obedience to some degenerate monarch running around with jewels on her head is a better alternative.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pyramid head

Freedom was a time when the police had to have a reason to stop you and search you. I wonder how many people just disappear? I am not going to AZ anymore. I have pale skin, blonde hair and they stop me every time. Same way with my brother in law. What we have in common are Washington State plates. That is not a reason for stopping and searching me. No, conservatives destroyed the spirit of the constitution with the Patriot Act. We have no protection from police authorities anymore.





The police state is a product of both parties, Jade Helm is taking place under your god-king Hussein obozos watch. Like I said, you want a government gun ready to enforce everything you disagree with unless it affects you directly. The difference between the far right and you, is your ok with the government imprisoning and threatening people via the tax law who disagree with you politically but not ok with cops harassing you, the far right is ok with neither.

Just wanna be free bro, not running around telling everyone what to do, say, or how they should live.
edit on 11-4-2015 by pyramid head because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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I appreciate your views but you think too deeply about a throw away comment.



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: pyramid head

I appreciate your views but you think too deeply about a throw away comment.


Fair enough



posted on Apr, 11 2015 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: pyramid head

I would like the freedom we had before the Patriot Act. But so long, no one gives back power or allows more freedom once taken.



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
Man, you are really up to date on homophobic imagery. Good luck with that world view!



posted on Apr, 13 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: muse7

I used to be a democrat... that was how I began... then the democratic party moved left, and so did the republican party.. then I became republican...

now things have shifted so far to the left that I will now be voting Libertarian.. simply because I am not a communist or a socialist.

So.. I don't know what any of them represent anymore... outside of communist crazy ideals and constant war..




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