Lesbian Businesswoman Who Donated To Targeted Indiana Pizzeria Shares Her Touching Reason Why

Well, what do you think about serving the Public Market vs. Attaching your name to a Private Event? I think she is right on the money.


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“As a member of the gay community,” she wrote, “I would like to apologize for the mean spirited attacks on you and your business. I know many gay individuals who fully support your right to stand up for your beliefs and run your business according to those beliefs. We are outraged at the level of hate and intolerance that has been directed at you and I sincerely hope that you are able to rebuild.”

She asserted that “there is a difference between operating in a public market space and then attaching the name of your business to a private event,” acknowledging that she would turn down a request to organize an anti-gay marriage rally.

While speaking to radio host Jeff Adams, Hoffman shared her view that the gay community should be especially attuned to discrimination and disavowed those who try to silence anyone with whom they disagree.

a reply to: infolurker

For that woman, personally, her donation was honorable and respectable. But the GoFundMe for Memories Pizza currently has $842K.

I am guessing they aren't worried about not being able to re-open at this point.

a reply to: infolurker

she makes some good points and i pretty much agree with her..i just get scared that if people start denying services based on sexual preference, skin color, religion opens the door to further intolerance and that in my opinion is the opposite direction we should be heading in.

originally posted by: infolurker
Well, what do you think about serving the Public Market vs. Attaching your name to a Private Event? I think she is right on the money.


www.westernjournalism.com...

“As a member of the gay community,” she wrote, “I would like to apologize for the mean spirited attacks on you and your business. I know many gay individuals who fully support your right to stand up for your beliefs and run your business according to those beliefs. We are outraged at the level of hate and intolerance that has been directed at you and I sincerely hope that you are able to rebuild.”

She asserted that “there is a difference between operating in a public market space and then attaching the name of your business to a private event,” acknowledging that she would turn down a request to organize an anti-gay marriage rally.

While speaking to radio host Jeff Adams, Hoffman shared her view that the gay community should be especially attuned to discrimination and disavowed those who try to silence anyone with whom they disagree.

That is a person who gets it. I don't agree with her lifestyle but she's not pushing it down our throat or damaging someone else's livelihood. I respect that.

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a reply to: infolurker

Good for her! She's in good company; Tammy Bruce also wrote:

Blessed are the pizza proprietors who are reviled for their faith

“As a gay woman I’m appalled by GOP inability to defend religious freedom & disgusted by how liberal gays have turned into common bullies.”

Both of these women have my utmost respect. Not just for respecting and advocating for freedom for everyone, but for having the strength of their convictions to take a public stand that they knew would only gain the attention -- and scorn -- of those same bullies.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: infolurker

she makes some good points and i pretty much agree with her..i just get scared that if people start denying services based on sexual preference, skin color, religion opens the door to further intolerance and that in my opinion is the opposite direction we should be heading in.

As opposed to the gov having the ability to tell you who you must work for?

Who cares if they are bigots?

Take your money some place else.

The free market will sort them out.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: infolurker

she makes some good points and i pretty much agree with her..i just get scared that if people start denying services based on sexual preference, skin color, religion opens the door to further intolerance and that in my opinion is the opposite direction we should be heading in.

I think there are those who want us to believe that; and that only government can fix it, because controlling our thoughts, our livelihood, our conscience, etc., gives "them" more power and control over the masses. But I also believe the reality has proven otherwise, as relatively few people still discriminate against gays -- or other minorites -- and not because of a law, but because of communication and discussion and enlightenment. Hearts and minds have changed for all the right reasons. Not because of laws and government intervention.

What is being lost in all this is the difference between discrimination and discretion. The first woman's point above is about having the right to show discretion, and that's what most of these businesses are trying to do. They aren't about trying to not serve someone solely because of who or what they are or aren't. Instead, they're looking at the job itself and what it means for them to participate.

Should a halal butcher be required to butcher any and every animal in the halal manner if asked? Up to and including pork?

Should the black businessman be required to cater a KKK rally?

Should the professional office caterer be required to take the business of a porn shoot simple because the job is similar?

All of the people above have reasons for not wanting to accept that business, and should be allowed to show discretion in whether or not they accept them. Whether or not a business takes the job or catering at a gay wedding is no different.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: infolurker

For that woman, personally, her donation was honorable and respectable. But the GoFundMe for Memories Pizza currently has $842K.

I am guessing they aren't worried about not being able to re-open at this point.

This whole GoFundMe stuff is insane. I look at just about anything that can "suck" such large amounts of money out of people as highly suspect.

GoFundMe is making a fortune off of this trend.

a reply to: infolurker

Lip service (pun intended)

originally posted by: infolurker
Well, what do you think about serving the Public Market vs. Attaching your name to a Private Event? I think she is right on the money.


www.westernjournalism.com...

“As a member of the gay community,” she wrote, “I would like to apologize for the mean spirited attacks on you and your business. I know many gay individuals who fully support your right to stand up for your beliefs and run your business according to those beliefs. We are outraged at the level of hate and intolerance that has been directed at you and I sincerely hope that you are able to rebuild.”

She asserted that “there is a difference between operating in a public market space and then attaching the name of your business to a private event,” acknowledging that she would turn down a request to organize an anti-gay marriage rally.

While speaking to radio host Jeff Adams, Hoffman shared her view that the gay community should be especially attuned to discrimination and disavowed those who try to silence anyone with whom they disagree.

As a christian I fully reflect her opinion, its sad that many of my brothers and sisters in Christ cant or wont accept other people.
Far more impressive is the fact that she hasnt just said a whole pile of words (That means an awful lot on its own) she has backed up her position with works.
But better still is this lady has offered an olive branch that should shame some christians into accepting others as she has.

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a reply to: infolurker

So on one side the GOP is demanding the legal right for business owners to discriminate amongst it's customers based on sexual orientation and arguing this is the way the free-market was intended to operate. That those business owners have the right to deny service and customers have the right to shop elsewhere...

Let the free market sort it out vs. legislation protecting minorities...right?

But when the "free market" organizes a boycott (a fee market response) those same business owners cry foul?

Then you can consider the "gofundme" as free market response to the boycott...but not sure that fits in the free-market economic model...cuz that "income" did not come from customers and was tied to the businesses services or quality of their Pizza etc.

It appears to me that the Conservative ranks want to "have their pizza and eat it too" with the free market argument? I mean they seem to fiercely adhere to the "free market" argument ...only as long as that free market is not turning against them...when that happens they call foul?

Just trying to understand this...what am I missing?

Ya very touched right now..I feel a tear running down my leg, a joke? yes this whole thing is a joke, almost a mill over a non event/hypothetical. This whole thing feels like a scam.

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: infolurker

So on one side the GOP is demanding the legal right for business owners to discriminate amongst it's customers based on sexual orientation and arguing this is the way the free-market was intended to operate. That those business owners have the right to deny service and customers have the right to shop elsewhere...

Let the free market sort it out vs. legislation protecting minorities...right?

But when the "free market" organizes a boycott (a fee market response) those same business owners cry foul?

Then you can consider the "gofundme" as free market response to the boycott...but not sure that fits in the free-market economic model...cuz that "income" did not come from customers and was tied to the businesses services or quality of their Pizza etc.

It appears to me that the Conservative ranks want to "have their pizza and eat it too" with the free market argument? I mean they seem to fiercely adhere to the "free market" argument ...only as long as that free market is not turning against them...when that happens they call foul?

Just trying to understand this...what am I missing?

Logic?


It is the free market at work. People object the store and so protest the store and take their business elsewhere. Other people disagree with that boycott and use their own funds to help the out. Both sides of the issue doing their own thing without government involvement.

Just because one espouses the free market principle does not mean that one has to either agree with what is going on nor that one cannot use the free market in opposition and doing such is not contradictory to a belief in the belief in free market principles in any way, shape, or form.

a reply to: NavyDoc

That is only the free market in action if what they are selling is ideology, not Pizza.

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: NavyDoc

That is only the free market in action if what they are selling is ideology, not Pizza.

That does not make sense. People didn't like what the guy said so they boycotted him. Other people thought the boycotters were meanies and supported him. That's the free market in action. The free market encompasses ideas too. Ever hear the expression "the free market of ideas?"