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Shrouds and Funerary Customs: a Comparison with the Shroud of Turin
This paper studies some aspects of the Shroud of Turin in relation to Jewish funerarycustoms: the analysis is based on scientific literature on the subject, on ancient sources and on archaeological finds. After discussing a few specific characteristics of the Turin Shroud fabric, we delve into talmudic and traditional references to Jewish burial shrouds and into some linguistic observations (also presenting a Hebrew textile terms glossary).The Shroud of Turin appears to be a traditional Jewish burial shroud; the only really peculiar feature is the exceptional value of the cloth (which is however consistent with the range of possibilities allowed by Jewish laws).
ìA Clean Clothî
What Greek Word Usage Tells Us about the Burial Wrappings of Jesus
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Throughout popular literature about the Shroud of Turin, σινδων(sindon) frequently is represented as the Greek word for "shroud."1 Σινδων is used by writers of the synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) in accounts of the burial of Jesus, and recent Bible translations render σινδων as "shroud." (e.g., RSV) But the word actually denotes a very fine and relatively expensive cloth, not necessarily linen and not intrinsically connoting death or burial.2
In this passage, (Figure 5) the Lord, seeking to wash [himself], was given
a shred of cloth or rag (ρακος)[folded] as "four doubled" (τετραδιπλον,)which
might be taken to mean a cloth customarily folded several times for personal
transport (as we today might fold something to be put in a pocket) yielding
Left impressed on the linen cloth was a miracle ñ the copy of his
form (μορφη). The cloth is referred to as σινδων in both texts.
The cloth folded in this manner ñ three times ñ yields eight layers, as we can see from Wilsonís diagram and from simple mathematics. (Folded in half once yields two layers; folded in half a second time doubles this to four layers;
folded in half a third time doubles this to eight layers.)
From ancient historical evidence, the Shroud also might have been folded in an accordion-like pattern, as Aldo
Guerreschi proposes.40 (Figure 7)
Diagram of manner in which the Turin Shroud might have been folded, first lengthwise, then in accordion-like pleats.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Agartha
Not to mention. The punishment Jesus received was unique because Pilate at first did not want to kill him, which is why he extended the suffering of Jesus in the hopes that the Jewish people present at the time would be satisfied without having Jesus put to death. It was still deplorable. However, could you show us evidence of anyone else at the time of Jesus receiving the same wounds/suffering as Jesus did?
Then again, if the appearance of a full body of a dead person in the burial shroud that covered them could be explained with "aromatic and burial ointments" then we would have a lot of shrouds similar to the Shroud of Turin. So show me these other full body shrouds.
Still - what if he wasn't really dead? Since, you know, corpses don't bleed. How, if it was a corpse, would all that "blood" have streamed from the areas that are consistent with a stab to the rib cage (NOT THROUGH THE HEART AS SOME CLAIM), the hands and feet?
Christian theologians often consider John 1:1 to be a central text in their belief that Jesus is God, in connection with the idea that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are equals. Though only in this verse is Jesus referred to as the Word of God, the theme transposed throughout the Gospel of John with variations. Theologian N.T. Wright characterizes "Word" (logos) as being incomprehensible in human language. He claims that through belief the Logos will transform people with its judgment and mercy. According to Wright, John's view of the Incarnation, of the Word becoming flesh, strikes at the very root of what he terms "the liberal denial...of the idea of God becoming human...." His assessment is that when the "enfleshment" and speaking Word is removed from the center of Christian theology, all that is left is "a relativism whose only moral principle is that there are no moral principles, no words of judgment (because nothing is really wrong, except saying that things are wrong), no words of mercy (because you're all right as you are, so all you need is affirmation)."
Part II examines evidence from the non-biblical sources of nineteen pagan writers that refer to Jesus Christ of the first century such as Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger. Also doucmented by Flavius Josephus, the greatest historian of the Jews.
originally posted by: Verum1quaere
a reply to: Agartha
MANY atheists have converted after sincerely trying to destroy Christianity...
Christian apologetics is a field of Christian theology which present reasoned bases for the Christian faith, defending the faith against objections.
Apologetics have based their defense of Christianity on historical evidence, philosophical arguments, and arguments from other disciplines. Christian polemic is a branch of apologetics aimed at criticizing or attacking other belief systems.
Are you quite sure that a corpse does not bleed? A dead person will not spurt blood simply because the heart is not pumping blood but a dead person can seep blood through wounds and especially deep wounds for quite a length of time.
Jesus is a concept. Until all concepts are seen for what they are there will be suffering.
The sin is the belief in concepts.
None of those people, not one of them, never ever mentioned Jesus Christ! There is no proof that Jesus of Nazareth ever existed, outside of the Bible, and certainly no proof that he was crucified or that he rose from the dead after dying for our collective sins.