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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: MysterX
Always thought it was elements from Kiev that planned and carried out this slaughter...in order to blame separatists or the Russians or if they're lucky enough, both of them.
Well, have you never wondered how this element from Kiev got that far into separatists held territory to be able drive through not detected and captured by the separatists before or after this happened?
As the separatists would have had a parade for capturing Ukrainian military hardware that just shot down a commercial airliner.
But of course somehow Ukraine pulled the stealthiest shoot down of a plane from Separatists held land in history without even be heard. I see they have asked David Copperfield a few questions on how to make something disappear right in front of your eyes.
originally posted by: Qspeedyrock
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
It is very hard to prove which side is right and which side is wrong. Most of the propoganda Eg truck with the buk 1 misile launcher on the back of it has been debunked and the car dealer in the background is know where near the border. there is definitely a misile missing though. A lot of recordings that were used to try and make cases were later debunked or shown to be out of context. The ukrainians said that they did not have their buk 1 misile launchers in the area at the time but this was later proved to be a lie.
The good example of such fact is that some mass media showed transportation of the Buk-M1 missile system from Ukrainian to Russian territory.We can clearly see that its frame-up. These pictures were made in the city of Krasnoarmeisk that is confirmed by a banner situated close to the road. This banner has an address of the car shop situated at the Dnepropetrovskaya, 34. Since May 11 the Krasnoarmeysk city is under control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
July 17. The same position north of Donetsk without anti-missile system "Buk-M1". He is absent. He was taken. What for?