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originally posted by: mryang
originally posted by: Expat888
a reply to: mryang
A good full tang fixed blade knife ... beyond that everything else useless weight to lug around.
Tell me how you intent to use the knife for survival the next coming 30 days in unknown conditions. Not saying u r wrong, just curious.
originally posted by: mryang
The game is weird because we know nothing yet:
1. What happened - We don't know
2. What kind of equipment already exists in the BOL - We don't know - Worst case stolen, destroyed or occupied.
3. How many are we - We don't know - My BOL is a solo camp only?
4. In what terrain is the BOL located and how does the roads to it look like - we don't know
5. What am I wearing now - We don't know
6. And maybe the most important of them all - What is the weather like - We don't know
If this was REAL, you must assume WORST CASE SCENARIO and if we limit to 30 lbs this would be my list:
WATER - Bottled water and Lifestraw.
FOOD - Fishing kit, .22
SHELTER - Survival blankets, Sleeping Bag
DEFENSE - Machete + Bow
OTHER - Firestarter
Total: 30 lbs.
ANOTHER GAME WOULD BE:
If you could take only one thing from that list, disregarding of weight, what would you take, assuming SHTF and you didn't know anything?
originally posted by: Expat888
a reply to: mryang
1. to build shelter
2. build traps to get food
3. to get firewood
4. self defense or if need be and it cant be avoided to silently take out sentries
5. relieve boredome carving
Theres a myriad of uses for a good fixed blade knife . only listed a few of them above .. you lot can have fun lugging around all your high tech toys and junk that you think you need to survive .. can get more done .. travel further and faster along with live better without all the useless # ..
originally posted by: Expat888
a reply to: mryang
You really are clueless .. from practical .. firsthand experience over 50+ years of my life spent in war zones and disaster areas I know what actually works and what doesnt .. have you even been outside of a city for more than a day ? or walked further than the corner shop and back ? how about been hunted by men out to kill you ? stick to your books and fantasyland you wouldnt survive long in real world ..
originally posted by: Expat888
a reply to: mryang
1. to build shelter
2. build traps to get food
3. to get firewood
4. self defense or if need be and it cant be avoided to silently take out sentries
5. relieve boredome carving
Theres a myriad of uses for a good fixed blade knife . only listed a few of them above .. you lot can have fun lugging around all your high tech toys and junk that you think you need to survive .. can get more done .. travel further and faster along with live better without all the useless # ..
But, could you clarify in what way a knife is preferred before a sleeping bag in a SHTF-scenario?
originally posted by: Gazrok
But, could you clarify in what way a knife is preferred before a sleeping bag in a SHTF-scenario?
Can't say I've ever used a sleeping bag when camping outside of living in Alaska. Never needed one elsewhere.
Plenty of uses for a knife though.
SHELTER, Can use the knife to cut small branches, vines, etc. to build a shelter.
WATER, Can use it to cut branches that house water, make a drinking straw, etc.
FOOD, Can use it with a stick, as a spear, can use it to make traps, etc.
I typically used my backpack and a towel for a pillow when camping (though these days, I have an inflatable pillow that is pretty damn nice).
That all said, a metal water bottle, some kind of fire starter (preferably a Zippo lighter), and a good full tang knife, and a small LED flashlight, and I'd be fine. Anything else is just gravy.
I don't know if I would survive 10 days, during same conditions with only a knife, because in -20, you really don't want to fall asleep without knowing you gonna wake up again.
originally posted by: Gazrok
I don't know if I would survive 10 days, during same conditions with only a knife, because in -20, you really don't want to fall asleep without knowing you gonna wake up again.
At 10 or 20 below, would be fairly easy (time consuming, but easy) to build a little snow fort (igloo) to retain your body heat. Especially if you made room to have a small fire and chimney opening. I used to build these all the time when in the 4th grade, so I imagine it would be much quicker now....
As for bedding, not sure of the trees in Sweden, but I know in Alaska I could easily gather up a ton of pine needles, throw a poncho over it, and have a pretty soft bed in no time.
While a sleeping bag is comfy, it takes up a LOT of space, and isn't something you'd usually have with you in your vehicle or even BOB. A military issue wool blanket is a better use of space for the same purpose, along with one of those cheap mylar "blankets".
A Knife is there, and a Tent is there. Why would you just grab the knife and leave a perfectly good shelter, instead of both?