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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: Ghost147
It sure beats my idea.
If it was up to me then i'd place a settlement at the foot of the mountains where the summer thaw and seasonal rains could provide clean water for crops and the community all year round-but as for providing energy for mod cons then I have no idea-I'm guessing that basing a community in the foothills would need to be able to make the best of the sunlight that is available-perhaps a six hour window.
This is why I try not to think too much.
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Ghost147
An ambitious project to say the least! Sounds like you have thought of pretty much everything - have you heard of "Earthships"? I ask because this guy who invented the term/concept has developed off-the-grid communities and has some innovative ideas that may help you on your journey. I would highly recommend watching the documentary about Earthships, since it may give you some really helpful ideas. The man who created the concept of earthships also uses recycled materials/trash (such as used tires, which help the buildings store thermal heat from the sun), which could also help with the pricing of materials. Anyway, here is the full documentary if you have time or interest in learning more. I wish you the best of luck on your endeavor and hope you will keep us updated on how the projects are coming
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I personally believe that small, strong, self sufficient, and innovative communities are the future for us. The next step in our social and cultural evolution, connected like never before through technology.
Me and my group are doing something similar. Rather than focus on being off grid though, we are focusing on self sufficiency bolstered by technology. Our goal is to mix simple, but extraordinarily clever, old world techniques with cutting edge technology.
From my own experience, wait until you own specific property before making all the plans. Some pieces of land may offer opportunities that were not considered and going through all variables before hand can be exceedingly time consuming.
originally posted by: boohoo
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
You might want to think up a craft or trade skill you an trade for money to pay the property tax, and who knows -- you might need an odd item here or there. It couldn't hurt to have a little income source now and then.
Thats why I said they need to form a separate corporation or co-op, so they can generate money for taxes, fines and permits, upkeep, etc, while keeping the "business stuff" separate from the entity that owns land they live on. Its a lot more complicated and expensive than people imagine. This was done on purpose by government to keep people within the system at any cost, while preventing them from going out to be neo-pioneers, due to having limited financing to fight back in legal disputes.
originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
Absolutely, positively, DO it.
You have NO IDEA how lucky you are to have such valuable, driven friends at your side. What you're doing is a dream of mine. Unfortunately, none of my friends care enough to even consider something like this. It frustrates me to no end to care so much about people who simply refuse to care themselves.
You have something I long for. Utilize it.
originally posted by: AuranVector
a reply to: Ghost147
S&F for some great ideas. British Columbia is beautiful (some consider it the best part of Canada), but I would be worried about the chain of volcanoes on the West Coast and the Cascadian subduction zone. You might be better off moving farther inland, north of Idaho/Montana. Just a thought. Good luck.
originally posted by: Guidance.Is.Internal
I've lived this life. I will tell you this, it always looks quite rosy from where you sit. However, it will be an incredible amount of work. Satisfying work? Sometimes. But a lot of work nonetheless. There won't be a lot of idle time. The more sophisticated your setup, the more things that will break and require repairs. The more simple your setup, the more manual labor required. Believe it or not, the lifestyle does get old. At least, it did for me. Good luck, in any event.
originally posted by: Gazrok
Right, but the items mentioned above are maintenance items if you are using such technology, like refrigeration, light bulbs, etc. Doubtful you'll be producing these, so will still be dependent on others for these types of items.
Nothing wrong with that either.
Sadly though in Britain there just isn't the space to even give it credible thought beyond a dream.