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Missouri Lawmakers Don't Want Food Stamp Recipients To Buy Steak

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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Let me readdress my statement.

Most people are not wanting to pay more, into more welfare.

Most will agree that a small, limited amount of assistance is fine. Small and limited being the key factors.




posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: macman

By a lot, yes. I'm not giving you personal information no matter how much you ask.

I've only been on food stamps for a few months over the past five years. Sorry to not fit your living on food stamps stereotype you like so much. It did one thing, helped me in a rough spot, that's it. Overall I worked and paid taxes. In fact I emptied my 41k which a lot of went towards taxes, using every cent I had until completely broke before even getting on food stamps.

As for getting a lot back in refund, nope not much, frankly I've always wondered how so many people get so much back in their refund, I never have.
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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: macman

What we have is not only already small and limited, it's getting smaller and smaller every year.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

By a lot doesn't state which way. Did you pay more into taxes or was your refunds higher?

And I guess you aren't reading what I state. I didn't ask for personal info...in fact I stated not to include numbers.

So, you paid more into taxes then you have received back.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Not really.

As more people are hooked onto welfare, the funds it consumes are higher.
The numbers of people on welfare are growing. Funds have to come from somewhere and Govt isn't willing to cut elsewhere. So, the natural thing is an increase in taxes.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: macman

I paid more than I got back in refunds. I don't think I've ever gotten back more than I paid in, is that even possible?



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Also as a note, even if this bizarre aberration has occurred, and I had gotten back more, you still need to look at all years of my life in total, and not just a slide of one moment in my life.

Again, you seem to be under the delusion that the second a person stops being able to contribute to taxes for a sliver of time that it completely nullifies the sum total of taxes they paid up until that point.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

It sure is. When you make around $50k per year or higher.

Welcome to my world.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:48 PM
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Indigo: Yeah, I work full time, go to school and have kids. I'm not reporting anyone. There's not enough time in my life to be a stickler and go around reporting everyone. I see these scenarios everyday. I pay for my schooling and daycare for my kids out of pocket. Others choose not to work and perpetuate their 'poor'situation. No politician with any sort of clout is gonna stop giving out the guhment cheese. I can drive 10 minutes down the road and find section 8 housing where you will see BMWs, Mercedes', Cadillacs, etc. Not to mention the 70" flat screens you can see through the windows. Its not just black people, its a mindset that is instilled in these people from childhood. Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it isn't true. It's a damn shame that whenever the race card is pulled, the system pees it's panties.


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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: macman

Honestly if you make that much a year, I could care less what bitching and moaning you do. You're in great shape, enjoy it and live it up. Stop pissing on everyone who makes less than you and spend less in their entire year on themselves than you probably do in a month.
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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

So, because I make more then $50k a year, I should stop being upset that a portion, a large portion of that is taken from me.

WOW. The welfare entitlement mindset is strong with you.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: macman

Prove that a large portion of that is food stamps that I used, and that we're not paying more in taxes than the welfare cost and you can talk.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Why do I have to prove that?

My taxes, the taxes that pay for welfare, go up every year. As I EARN more, you know from working more hours, more of MY money is taken from me.

That is my issue.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: macman

That's funny considering the amount people are getting from welfare is going DOWN every year despite inflation.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: macman

Like i mentioned earlier....on a $4000 annual tax liability, the portion of that tax payment that goes to SNAP is $2.46

$2.46 a year. That is what is being quibbled over here. Ironically, the amount of money you would save from all those deadbeats buying lobsters wouldn't be enough to buy even a frozen lobster tail.

I am as frothing at the mouth libertarian as you can get. Like i said...get rid of the entire entitlement system if you wish...we will figure it out one way or another. But if we are going to send money to fund warlords in Africa and the Middle East, can we not at least spend $2.46 a year to try to keep starvation from happening at home? Sure...it might get abused by some. But its only $2.46 a year....i lose that in my sofa.

Heck, if it'd make you feel any more "whole" financially, I'd send you a money order for $2.46 to cover 2015.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:08 PM
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Me thinks you're complaining about the wrong things. As has been pointed out time and time again, SNAP is one of the least costly government programs, if you really have issues with the government taking your money, perhaps focusing on the programs that cost pennies is not the best idea.
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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I'm in on that, I'll pay the same to cover all of 2014 since I used a bit of food stamps for a short bit.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

And that is the issue. Just a little bit here, just a little bit there.

Being a business owner you know exactly what that means. The state wanting just a 2% increase for this. The county pushing for 3% for something else. The Fed taking 5% more from here.

The whole thing is the issue. As for just $2.25, it is small, but it is the fact of the matter that the money is supposed to feed people food. Not give them money to spend on cookies.

My $10k a year in charitable contributions does a hell of a lot more then SNAP ever could.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

It is the topic of the thread....so it gets my attention.

Show me a thread talking about all the other BS that the Govt wastes money on and I am there with the biggest bells you can find.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove

No, the amount taken from me doesn't drop. The amount they receive doesn't drop. What you are talking about is the value of the dollar.



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