Missouri Lawmakers Don't Want Food Stamp Recipients To Buy Steak

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: Grimpachi

I understand what you are saying...but what if they only buy the lobster very rarely...and it is for a special occassion...aren't poor people allowed to celebrate?

Well, I do think it is wrong if it allows them to celebrate weekly or more which is what the people I knew did.


Everyone should be able to once in a while, but that isn't what some are doing.

a reply to: abe froman

You and I can agree to disagree.

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: caladonea

Nobody ever said people on food stamps can't have steak and lobster.

Just pay for it with your own money, not with food stamps.

Also, I understand wanting to "splurge" for a special occasion. However, the reality is if you can't afford to feed yourself, then you can't afford to splurge.

Food stamps are to provide basic food necessities, steak and lobster should be as forbidden as liquor and cigarettes.

You can have all the steak, crab legs, and lobster you want, as long as you pay for it.

Also, people who work and pay taxes have every right to be upset when someone living of their hard earned money gets to enjoy luxuries that they can not.

Too damn funny. When people receiving food stamps dare buy a steak Conservatives lose it and start blaming them.

But don't you dare impose more regulations on all those corporations that receive all those billions of dollars of corporate welfare..

Keep your dirty hands off those holy job creators you dirty socialist progressive!

a reply to: Puppylove

You gave me a good laugh...I needed that...thank you!

a reply to: muse7
I didn't blame anyone for anything, my point is if someone else is paying the check you don't order the lobster.

If you are too poor to feed yourself and also too stupid not to blow a week's food budget one a one meal "splurge" maybe these decisions have to be made for you.

Here in Ohio you can use food stamps to buy Red Bull, and lots of ignorant morons do. That should be blacklisted as well as candy.

Why do so many entitled children feel they are owed luxury?

a reply to: Grimpachi

There's always a few bad apples to spoil it for the whole bunch. Always. Too often we let a few people ruin things for the majority who've done no wrong.

Let me tell you a story, an example of this from my experience. I was working at a manual labor job, it was really hard work, and it got really hot during the summer. Management decided to issue us water bottles so we could stay hydrated and productive. It worked great everyone was doing well with it. Well next thing you know, some idiot replaces their water with vodka and gets caught with it. Next day all our bottles were taken from us. Three days later someone was rushed to the hospital from extreme heat exhaustion, they died.

Why? Because ONE count them ONE asshat decided to abuse the system resulting everyone else being punished for it.

It doesn't matter that a few jerks will abuse the system when the majority is not.

Oh and even though someone died, we never did get those water bottles back.

I personally reassured Rick Brattin that when Jesus (Matthew 14:13-21) miraculously fed 5,000 people with "5 loaves of bread and 2 fish", that he didn't use wild Salmon or Bluefin Tuna...

I said Jesus used sardines.

I was also going to tell him about Proverbs 19:17 - "Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed."...

But I did not want to ruin Mr. Brattin's Easter.

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: muse7
I didn't blame anyone for anything, my point is if someone else is paying the check you don't order the lobster.

If you are too poor to feed yourself and also too stupid not to blow a week's food budget one a one meal "splurge" maybe these decisions have to be made for you.

Here in Ohio you can use food stamps to buy Red Bull, and lots of ignorant morons do. That should be blacklisted as well as candy.

Why do so many entitled children feel they are owed luxury?

Isn't lobster food? So you want to restrict what food people that receive food stamps can and can't buy?

That's a bit authoritarian of you.

So you don't want kids to get a cookie or a candy bar a few days per week?

a reply to: Dimithae

They didn't ask the government to bail these crooks out,they didn't ask the government to loosen the laws for wall street. Yet they have paid for it with their first born ever since.

Well they didn't ask the Missouri State Legislature either.

But you never miss a chance to puff a threat up with rhetoric.

a reply to: Puppylove

If you notice my first post in the thread I did not support limiting items that could be purchased.


I recognize that there is a problem with those who abuse the system and I feel that something should be done about that however I have not heard nor read a good solution as of yet.

I am compassionate enough that I do not wish to punish everyone for the abuses of the few. I am not going to deny that the problem exists and needs to be fixed either.

The first step is admitting there is a problem.

a reply to: caladonea

I'm not on food stamps and I can't afford those things, so why should they take my tax money and buy them?

I don't really care what they eat, but when they come up to my register with chips and dip, bags of beef jerky, two liter sodas, donuts, cookies, and deli sandwiches and then pat their twelve pack of beer and tell me "This is separate" The food stamp card pays for the junk food and then out come the twenties to buy the alcohol followed by tobacco and lottery tickets. And it happens all the time where I work, somebody from the state needs to work in a store and watch how some people use the money they save with those cards to support their bad habits.

a reply to: caladonea

Thanks Caledonia, I needed this. Flag, star and subscription.
I'd like to stay in touch with this thread to see who's buying
what. So far it looks like the haves vs. have mores.

Let's instead start with nothing for around eight years, after the
'07 meltdown and the prospect of more widespread poverty.
I cashed my 401K in '05 to pay back rent and buy some much
needed replacement tools: not a bottle of 200 year old brandy
to celebrate some new found poverty.

Right, I said poverty, like three years later your unemployment
runs out bouncing in and out of factories folding--- and the side
jobs for other places aren't needed anymore, because they're
folding up too.
See if you can bring a squirrel or two to the barbi next time...

After squeaking out on an early retirement and eviction just
previous to it, something changed. The amount of decent food
anybody in my circle buys is dwindling faster than the value of the
dollar-- forget nutritional value. What we in the 99% are beginning
to see in the shopping carts are bulk carbs and spice to doctor
it into something like a meal. Steak is off the register ticket: one
steak in these parts will buy a week of pasta and ketchup.. guess what.

I'm not crying in my beer, because I'm on a fixed income now and
made my bed in the dirt. No regrets, like I said... paid my way long
enough and don't expect a third of it in return due to medical and
other issues. But one of the principal issues is awareness. I happen
to think better hungry, and more of that 99% seem to be waking up
all the time.

My oldest friend is retired a month younger than me, and he said,
"They're just waiting for us to die."
I replied, 'Let me know when you notice them pleased with helping."

I believe in spite, very little else. But I can't afford any of that this
month either. Thanks Rick, but I can pick this one a whole click away.
And the meek shall inherit the earth... four yards at a time. Reville.

a reply to: muse7

Here's a novel idea - Earn your own money to buy it with. If I can't afford those things out of my pocket, then why should I be subsidizing your steak, lobster and cookies?

Better yet, why don't they buy the basic ingredients to bake their own cookies? Flour, sugar, butter and stuff like that can be used for all kinds of things, not just cookies.

a reply to: derfreebie

What do they want us to eat? Bread, rice, beans and canned Tuna all the time...once in a while some canned salmon is good too.

a reply to: muse7

Well then, why not caviar?

How about some truffles to go with that?

Steak? Kobe beef, heck as long as somebody else is paying for it, sky's the limit right?

If you are living of the sweat off the workingman's brow, why should you enjoy luxuries he can't afford?

This is the way children think. Grow up and support yourself then you can buy what you want.

If you persist with childish and pedantic delusions of entitlement perhaps a "my house, my rules" attitude is in order.

No one told anyone they can not buy what they want with their own money.

a reply to: ketsuko

That is just it...with many Seniors...they did work for many years...paid their taxes...get Social Security and some food stamps...they did pay their taxes and earned their money...it should be no one else's business what they buy with their food stamps or money.

Perhaps someone should ask the republican lawmaker in Missouri what has harmed the country the most

A/ Multi Million dollar contributions to US senators by corporations that has turned democracy into fascism or
B/ Poorer people getting a bit of protein.

Congress should also not be buying steak and lobster on tax payers dime, or cars or houses or vacations, private jets, first class anything. They work less than people on welfare and food stamps do. Essentially we pay them to be wined and dined by corporations and any other manner of special interest.

As far as prioritizing ridding ourselves of wasteful spending, trailer park mom can buy all the freaking steak my tax dollars will cover.

Seriously? What an asshole.

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: muse7
I didn't blame anyone for anything, my point is if someone else is paying the check you don't order the lobster.

If you are too poor to feed yourself and also too stupid not to blow a week's food budget one a one meal "splurge" maybe these decisions have to be made for you.

Here in Ohio you can use food stamps to buy Red Bull, and lots of ignorant morons do. That should be blacklisted as well as candy.

Why do so many entitled children feel they are owed luxury?

You can't use food stamps to buy Red Bull in Ohio,you can't even use them to buy a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store.. You can however buy it if you are receiving cash assistance. They are two completely different programs. They do however utilize the same debit card to access the funds. As to whoever it is you know managing steak and crab legs exclusively on Food Stamps weekly doesn't even sound remotely close to right seeing as the average benefit amount for SNAP benefits in Ohio is $133.50/per person a month. I am not saying they weren't because whatever program you have there will always be those that figure out how to scam the system. But the idea of the "welfare queen" living high on the hog is more myth than fact.