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originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Wow. More self-righteous posturing and judgement from a bunch of people who really have no clue what they are talking about, or what life is like for someone really down and out. Otherwise, people would not be supporting this sort of assinine limit on what people can eat.
I was once homeless, and received food stamps to eat with. The problem when you are homeless is that...well...you don't have a home. And thus, you have no fridge or pantry to store food, no stove or oven to cook with, no utensils to prepare and eat with, so you are limited to food that is pre-prepared, non perishable, and easy to carry around, which isn't really cheap. So I would get stuff at the deli counter at the store, like trays of sushi and stuff, because it was a full meal that I could eat without having to make it, and was more nutritious/less caloric than the sandwiches and such.
So was I abusing the system with sushi/edamamme diet at the local IGA? Hardly. I was eating whatever was the most practical and economic, and in my case at the time, that was grocery store sushi trays, or some of the leaner sandwiches/deli plates.
So these assholes in Missouri think that poor people should just buy gruel and cabbage, then? What about when steak and lobster are on sale? I've bought packages of good meat and seafood that had been marked 50% or more off, with food stamps. Hell, I made a week's worth of lobster bisque for less than 10 bucks, when one of our stores was selling nice frozen lobster tails for one dollar each. Naturally, I only bought lobster when it was on a blowout sale like this. Same with prime meat or other luxury foods. Living good doesn't have to be expensive at all, if you know where to look.
Maybe instead of trying to control what poor people are allowed to eat and buy on food stamps, they should take a look and find out why there are so many poor people in the first place.
originally posted by: moonleaf
a reply to: NavyDoc
I worked for several years before and many many years after having to receive assistance. SO I PAID FOR MY ASSISTANCE, so I think I earned a right to buy whatever I wanted. And I would extend the same right to everyone else.
And the taxes that we pay are for a lot more than food stamps. It goes to military spending, lining politicians pockets, and many other wasteful things. We also spend a great deal of money on aid to other countries.
I wish I had a choice in where my tax dollars were spent, but I don't. Why don't they make that the law? According to you, that is what you want, to dictate how your money is spent. So, if each individual taxpayer could chose how and where their tax dollars were spent, then you would be happy?
I would want all of mine to go to assist the needy. You can spend yours on killing strangers overseas or paying for some elitist politician to fly first class to wherever they "need" to go and of course pay for the finest restaurants because they have to keep up appearance.
I would much rather pay for a child to eat than pay for an 18 year old in fatigues to go blow up a school or church in another country, and then pay for his PTSD treatment when he gets back home and cannot fit back in to "normal society".
Why don't we just get rid of public assistance all together? Would you kick dirt on the children and elderly that would be begging for money to stay alive on your streets of gold?
originally posted by: Aazadan
Threads like this always make me think I'm doing it wrong. I get $680/month in income, which here in Ohio after the most recent round of food stamp cuts comes to $42/month in food stamps.
In the past I posted a picture of two weeks of groceries, on food stamps here. But that's when I got over 100/month. At $42 it's a bit less. These days I essentially have two meals. On the days I get to splurge I eat a salad (spinach, carrots, celery, green peppers, onion, egg, cheese, with oil/vinegar dressing). Those come to about $3 each so it's an every three day thing on average. The other days I eat a bowl of jasmine rice which is closer to 25 cents. The remainder goes to some other things, I get 1 teabag per day and I buy plain unsalted almonds, and raisins eating a small handful of each per day.
On the idea of buying luxury foods for special occasions my birthday comes up in a couple weeks, for the fifth birthday in a row there will be no cake, no ice cream, no special dinner, not even a birthday twinkie. Those types of things only happen extremely rarely.
I'm sure someone here will disagree with what I choose to spend mine on, but that just makes that person the same as this man who wants to ban steak/lobster which is a completely ridiculous concept. Once you open the door to allowing the government to dictate what money they give you gets spent on, they'll do it everywhere. Not just to the invisible poor people.
originally posted by: moonleaf
a reply to: NavyDoc
Maybe you should have read my ENTIRE post. Or maybe this would be helpful:
People living on credit can and have cost the taxpayers quite a bit of money. That one bailout was equal to about 10 years of food stamp spending.
One thing was clear: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were given a government-sponsored monopoly on a large part of the U.S. secondary mortgage market. It is this monopoly, combined with the government's implicit guarantee to keep these firms afloat, that would later contribute to the mortgage market's collapse.
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originally posted by: blackmetalmist
I've honestly yet to see any of these EBT (California) card holders purchase any premium steaks or lobsters. The majority of them have mountains (yes the carts completely full) of cookies, sodas, and everything processed. Hardly any veggies or fruits. If they do have fruits, it's only in the form of a carton juice. I think I would rather have them buy steaks and lobster any day.
Consuming so much sugar and fat is only creating a diabetic generation and over crowded hospitals with people with a lot of health problems.