Kentucky Wildcat Player Uses Racial Slur at Presser

What did the guy say?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: thesmokingman

Who's free speech is getting supressed?

Free speech does not grant you to say what you want where you and when you want with no repercussions.

It protects you from the gov coming after you for speaking out against it...

I will tell you where it is being suppressed. It is in the sanctions (or lack thereof) when one does say something racial. Personlly, I think that people should be able to say whatever they want, because that really is what freedom of speech means. However, you know as well as I that IF this were a white player that said that same exact word in the same forum, he would be nailed to the proverbial cross. However, since it is a black guy, he can simply get away with an apology. Now, here is really where its different. Sterling says an opinion, didnt even use a derogatory term, in his own home, and was forced to sell his business! This kid says an actual racial slur ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, and seems he may just get by with little more than an apology.

Oh I see this dumb fool called a white guy the n word!

originally posted by: Willtell
What did the guy say?

He said "F%#K that Ni$#a" about another player on national tv. No big deal, you know?

a reply to: MisterFister103

It has been a day first off, so to say nothing is going to happen may not be true.

And you make up this outcomes of what would happen if Frank had said it like there is no doubt it would happen.
No way a school would lose a star player over something like this, even if the shoes were flipped.


But news flash, it didn't happen so you don't have to worry about what would of happened if he said it.

I don’t know what to call that!

A racial anti-slur

You can’t be angry at this because the guy was white!

What an irony

a reply to: thesmokingman

Is it racist to call frank what he said?

We don't know for a fact anything if another player did what harrison did cause it didn't happen.

But that still isn't suppression of speech by any stretch. And the free speech does not mean you get to say what ever you want with no consequence.

We don't know what this kid is going to get away with, it happened last night.

Get over sterling, a private business can do as it pleases.
If you don't think what he said was derogatory then that is just being willfully ignorant.
He didn't use a slur, but hardly was speaking highly of african americnas.

This was a kid, upset over a loss after a perfect season that messed up.

Since we are living in the land of what ifs, If frank said F that cracka, would you say it was racist to harrison?

a reply to: thesmokingman


you can spout racial slurs all you want. your employer can fire you for it because, just like it's your right to say the words, it's their right to not want those words in their workplace.

The host of a tv show can host racist themed parties, her employer can fire her for it because there's usually a clause in those employment contracts that state the individual must behave in a certain matter, to ensure ratings success.

A professional sports league most likely has similar requirements for the owners of the teams admitted into the league. Marge schott didn't go to jail but she was punished for her big, ignorant mouth. Not by the law but, rather, by the league in which here team played.


These players are coached in how to talk with press and this kid dropped the ball, no doubt about it but it ins't some horrific racially motivated comment.


stand on the corner outside my building and shout racial slurs, nothing happens. Stand inside the lobby of my building and do the same thing, you'll be escorted out of the building.

if you don't leave, you'll be arrested. For trespassing.

originally posted by: Sremmos80

If frank said F that cracka, would you say it was racist to harrison?

Meh, I get it all the time.

Obviously the term was not used in a racist manner, for the simple fact that the racial connotation of the word is absent from who it was used against. It is likely just a common term of his vernacular. A non-issue.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: MisterFister103

It has been a day first off, so to say nothing is going to happen may not be true.

And you make up this outcomes of what would happen if Frank had said it like there is no doubt it would happen.
No way a school would lose a star player over something like this, even if the shoes were flipped.


But news flash, it didn't happen so you don't have to worry about what would of happened if he said it.

Do you recall the SAE college racist chant last month? Did they not shut down that whole fraternity? Yep, they sure did because they were WHITE!

originally posted by: TheSubversiveOne
Obviously the term was not used in a racist manner, for the simple fact that the racial connotation of the word is absent from who it was used against. It is likely just a common term of his vernacular. A non-issue.

Well there are a lot of white people from the south especially that the word is part of their vernacular and it is not OK then is it?

a reply to: thesmokingman

No, the fraternity was shut down because their actions went against the code of conduct expected from the fraternities, and the students.

a reply to: thesmokingman

Well there are a lot of white people from the south especially that the word is part of their vernacular and it is not OK then is it?

That is not the same. It would only be the same if a white person called a black person a cracker or a honkey. But if you wish to use the word in different contexts, by all means.

Originally posted by: Crakeur
a reply to: thesmokingman

No, the fraternity was shut down because their actions went against the code of conduct expected from the fraternities, and the students.



Harrison is in an even more exclusive fraternity, soon to be NBA players.

a reply to: thesmokingman

And the context of what they said was different!
If harrison and crew were leading chants of there will never be a cracker on Kentucky then you would have a point.

Context is everything.
Would you have thought it was out of line for frank to call harrison a cracker with no backlash?

originally posted by: Crakeur
a reply to: thesmokingman

No, the fraternity was shut down because their actions went against the code of conduct expected from the fraternities, and the students.

So then surely this young man will be punished as well just like the other students. Or does uttering a racial slur on live television not warrant such punishment?

a reply to: thesmokingman

I think he will be disciplined by the school for the f bomb, and the N word.


eta: not because it was done in a racially motivated manner or with malice of any kind (like the fraternity incident) but disciplined for speaking as he did, to the press.

I actually think he'd be in more hot water for the f bomb than the n word, had the recent racially motivated incidents not taken place.

Oh, for heaven's sake---he's a kid---not yet 20 years old I think and had just had his dream shattered. How many of you could keep absolute and complete control under those circumstances? I'm not saying he was right to say what he did but he apologized and he didn't have to have a court order to do so. As soon as he cooled off he realized his mistake and said he was sorry. He has a lot of learning to do about self-control. This isn't the first time he has let his emotions get him in trouble, just the most public time.
If Frank the Tank could accept his apology and go on, why can't those who weren't concerned at all with this incident get over it as well?
If you can honestly say that you grew up, got to the ripe old age of 21 or so without saying stupid stuff, stuff you regretted within minutes----then go ahead and condemn him and all the other people in the world who aren't as self-disciplined as yourself.
Go Badgers! (From a Big Blue Nation member)

It must mean all white people are racist right? Thats the seeming desire of the recent sensationalism. whatever... everyone keep fighting among themselves, that will give the impetus to legislate us further.