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Why no instruction on how to raise children in our schools?

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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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If you are talking about the public school system, then no. So much junk has fallen on teachers now, they can barely do what they are hired for.

There are other places people can take parenting classes, although it typically takes a court order to get them there.
(Public Health Dept.; Social Services; Mental Health).

Most young parents buy self help books, and consult with their pediatrician when needed. Takes a little self-motivation, but someone who is not self-motivated to become a parent shouldn't be one to start with.

The 'egg' and 'crying/wetting dolls were utilized to prevent unwanted teenage pregnancies.




posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: Ensinger23

That’s the point Im trying to make

Many parents are unaware of that

And all these Rush Limbaugh types think I’m pushing some liberal agenda


They don’t realize that millions of people in the world have children and they don’t have a clue what seriously harms them.

Now they have scientific facts of many things parents do that they know is harmful for a lifetime that's done from generation to generation


Don’t people realize that ones family environment will determine for the rest of their life how they will respond in life


I walked into school office once and a man slapped the living crap out of his daughter and no one did anything

I bet you that girl is in prison somewhere now

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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
It always seemed strange to me why in the modern “civilized” society there is nothing or no where one can get instruction on how to do the most important thing in the world, which is raising another human being from birth!


In these schools why is there not an iota of information on how to raise a child?


NOTHING!


And we wonder why we get a Charles Manson running around killing people.

Or a slew of gangs littering the street with corpses

They teach all kinds of extraneous nonsense in these schools all the way up to adulthood but not an iota of information of how to raise a human being properly and we wonder why our society is going mad!





There ARE parenting courses you can take, but it is NOT the school's responsibility. Not everything is. I took parenting courses at age 14 to earn more money babysitting. These courses were ran through our local church, but I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find them. I figured, if I knew more, I could charge more. Parents actually appreciated that I took the courses, as well as Red Cross CPR and Base Fireman Babysitting courses. At that time period, I was charging premium prices because they knew they were getting premium work. I had even taken Early Childhood Development in high school, which doubled as a baby sitting day care class for the young teens in the high school, and a class for those wanting to learn day care. It was a win-win for all involved and solidified my wanting to be involved with kids and have children later in life. (I think it was also an excellent deterrent for not wanting kids as a teen while you're in school.)



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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www.ted.com...





Notwithstanding that there are many different approaches which can be taken – and despite the risk of being accused of trying to run a “nanny state” - surely there are some key principles which our young would benefit from being taught at an early age, so that they have the knowledge and skills necessary for when they eventually become parents.




If I wanted to do some paid work in your house on your electrical system, to drive a car, to handle food in a restaurant or even be a nursery school teacher, I would be required to study and pass a test in order to demonstrate an acceptable level of competency in the work to be done. And yet, to breed and play the most important role in the critical formative years of societies next generation, I need no qualifications nor be required to receive any formal teaching on what is involved. Neither am I required to receive guidance in how to cope with the stress of parenthood and how children learn.



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

All you need are sex organs!



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: jude11

Yup that's why.

Cause parenting is subjective.

~Tenth


However, schools could teach that babies/kids are a 24hour commitment, changing diapers, what not to feed (honey under a year, for example, due to botulism), baby proofing a house, basic first aid, ... babysitting level stuff. A little familiarity goes a long way.

I've mentioned before that my kids were involved with a program where parents brought in babies to class and the kids watched the development over the year and assessed what the baby was feeling by its reactions and discussed what it needed in response. The program was designed to teach empathy which is sorely lacking in our society. Babies are great teachers. My teen boys talk about wanting children, look after an autistic 6 year old relative and know what they would be getting into...

I'm with the op on this one as parenting can be a rude awakening for parents and only the kids suffer in the end... I'm a woman and was not a "natural".



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 02:59 PM
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I have re-read the responses to this thread and I think where the disconnect between sides comes in is that regular subjects in a classroom such as science, math etc have a correct answer or are less open to interpretation. When it comes to parenting I think it is a lot like religion in that it is a personal philosophy. There are many excellent ways to parent and not all of them have to be the same.

My theory on parenting has always been to do the opposite of what my mom did when raising me. It has worked out incredibly well since pretty much every decision she made with me was wrong.




posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
Where I live they offer a 'Childhood Development' class in the public high school which is an excellent, comprehensive parenting class. Are you sure that your local high school doesn't offer something similar? They also offer a personal finance class which teaches about handling money, budgeting etc. I think the schools are probably doing better than you think.


Same at our high school. Childhood Development is one of the electives in Family Consumer Science (what used to be Home Ec). You can take one class, or take a 4 year path.

Civics is a required class in 9th grade. Economics and politics in 12th grade. My daughter took Business Math last year because she needed a class to fill a space and I loved the content. The class taught how to read a paycheck, calculate taxes, balance a checkbook, compare buy/lease on cars, understand mortgage and credit card interest, calculate a mortgage or lease payment. Very helpful stuff. I'm asking my son to take it next year.



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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Schools are suppose to be where kids go to learn math, science, reading, writing, and how to apply that knowledge to the real world they will one day have to enter.

Instead you want kids to be baby sat and fed, taught all about sex because you are too childish to talk about it yourself, and then give parenting lessons to the ones whose parents failed in teaching them how NOT to become teenage parents.

No wonder the school system is f'd up.

All the stuff PARENTS should be taking charge of they want other people to do for them.
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posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 04:57 PM
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Because Schools are for educating the children.
Education for parents? Not the job of teachers.
Stop blaming us educators for everything. We've done our job. You can read and type, that's our job.
a reply to: Willtell


edit on 5-4-2015 by Colbomoose because: typo



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
I'm talking about basic stuff like don’t abuse your children

That’s beatings are harmful

Arguments are harmful to children

You be surprised that people don’t know this


That’s why certain abuse is maintained over generations.


That football player who beat his kid didn’t know that this was harmful because his daddy and mommy did it to him


You folks just don't know the harm in parental abuse






Uhhhm, yeah...I certainly know the harm of abuse from a parent. First hand and quite severely actually.

It's why I chose the complete opposite approach in parenting my two children.

If you have to be educated by the government to not abuse your kids or fight in front of them then, you should not be having kids! PERIOD!

Most animals from the animal kingdom instinctively know how to care for their offspring for cripes sake!

As a society, we should all try to rely less on the government as much as possible in my opinion.

No disrespect to the OP. This is just my opinion on the matter.

I grew up in a very abusive and stressful environment and still didn't use that as justification to do the same to my own family.



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 05:29 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

So true. Children are like computers. Garbage In Garbage Out.



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Colbomoose

Im not blaming teachers for anything.

I like teachers, I work with them, and I am a victim of one of the GOP US governor’s war on teachers, and I won’t go into which one…

Anyway this shouldn’t the responsibility of teachers but the community. The teachers just give out the information

Just the point of awareness



posted on Apr, 5 2015 @ 07:53 PM
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they used to have home economics which taught girls how to care for the home, sew, cook and manage a check book. But with the feminine movement things of the home seem to take second place to ones secular goals.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 08:06 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

I took those classes In the 60's. I don't remember anything about a check book. The rest I already learned at home from my mom. What she should have taught me was skills and education that made me independent of men and husbands. Because the future was going to be full of men who absconded from all responsibility of fertilization and rearing of a family. As evidenced by your post.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

There are quite a few things that should be taught in schools that aren't (like financial and debt management), but teaching people how to raise children shouldn't be one of them. That is WAY too authoritarian.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Colbomoose
Because Schools are for educating the children.
Education for parents? Not the job of teachers.
Stop blaming us educators for everything. We've done our job. You can read and type, that's our job.
a reply to: Willtell



The problem nowadays is that usually both parents have to hold down full-time jobs, and when they get home they have to put food on the table and see to their and their children's needs (school work/supplies, clean clothes, emotional, quality time, etc.) then there really isn't a whole lot of time or energy left over for much of anything else. Although, if the parents can get their children off their electronic gadgets (which will most likely turn into a negative situation because the children are so addicted or programmed in this behaviour), then maybe they can have them help prepare dinner and help with the laundry, and cleaning the house.

Incorporating the basics of sex education, child rearing, cooking, the value of a dollar, and financial budetting within the curriculum should be taken into consideration. I recently heard on the radio that a chef was proposing that basic cooking and nutrition be taught in our public schools.
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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: ChesterJohn

I took those classes In the 60's. I don't remember anything about a check book. The rest I already learned at home from my mom. What she should have taught me was skills and education that made me independent of men and husbands. Because the future was going to be full of men who absconded from all responsibility of fertilization and rearing of a family. As evidenced by your post.



that to is a problem. men need to know that they have the responsibility to raise the children they procreate.

In the 70's they added the checkbook portion to the class. I remember my sister and Mother showing her as a homework budget she had to do for your home economics course in High School.

There are no classes for men/boys on how to be a father. It would have been and would be better if they prepared boys for fatherhood. But outside the Bible there is no instructions for men.

I am the head of my house, my wife manages the house while I go to work to bring home the needed money for us to live on. I execute the discipline as needed and talk and guide our children through their error. My wife is a great housekeeper, she also grows a garden in the back yard. My daughters help her as they can especially with their disabled younger brother.

most of the problem is we leave to much to the government to do for us via the schools and courts instead of training our kids in the correct path of parenthood.



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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 09:48 AM
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Do you realize how few men like you there are these days? The rest run or drink when the responsibilities get burdensome and two or three jobs may be required. I blame women for poor choices also. If it is family you want, get picky.

Until then, schools need to counter balance the fairy tales kids get about love and sex. Financial savvy in the schools is the best place to start. I put my three kids to work at 16 as nurse aides. Work is the best teacher. But hardly anyone will hire teenagers anymore. I worked at the facility that gave my kids jobs.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Do you realize how few men like you there are these days? The rest run or drink when the responsibilities get burdensome and two or three jobs may be required. I blame women for poor choices also. If it is family you want, get picky.

Until then, schools need to counter balance the fairy tales kids get about love and sex. Financial savvy in the schools is the best place to start. I put my three kids to work at 16 as nurse aides. Work is the best teacher. But hardly anyone will hire teenagers anymore. I worked at the facility that gave my kids jobs.



I wasn't always like this. fortunately none of my previous sexual encounters produced any children.

It wasn't until I had come to the end of myself and met Jesus that I changed my life at the age of 33.

Some of us need that but I prepare my children to be responsible for their actions and their lives and the lives they bring into this world. Teaching them to make the right choices is better than leaving them to themselves for 20 years in hopes they will come around.

the burden still falls on the parents and more specifically the fathers.

I am sorry you had to go through what you have. Even as a single parent you can still help them as you already have.

I don't think the schools want to they are the government and what they want is more takers than givers it is the socialist way to fundamentally change America.


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