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First Berenstein Bears, now... Jupiter Rising?

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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: Pimpish
a reply to: universalbri

I understand, why learn something. It's much easier to just close your eyes and say, "My memory is great, we're just in another reality!"

By the way, it's not a documentary and it's not telling you what to think. It does have Hollywood production and it's more or less some experiments on memory.

Here's an example. They show a group of people a penny for a few seconds. Something most people see nearly every day. They take the penny away, flip over a board with a bunch of different penny heads on it and tell the people to pick the correct one. Nobody did.

If you're unable to watch something and draw your own conclusions that's your issue. I decide what to think on my own.



My point to the diatribe was this: If you can demonstrate value in the program which does more than makes a person question their memories, I might listen to it. But you've made it clear this isn't your goal.

In fact. It makes absolutely no sense. Anyone nowadays can present information on the internet and posit it as fact and even provide fake references and statistics supporting their position.

You know mine. You're absolutely right for you and your perspective. And we have two+ universes where we can have different opinions and coexist yet not at the same time :-)




posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: universalbri

Cool. Like I said, if you want to keep your eyes closed and say it's not your memory we're in a different universe that's fine. I've seen many people on ATS, and in life, like that, it's no surprise. You see it all the time with religious types, not wanting to hurt their core beliefs so just refusing to look at or believe things that go against that. I'm fine with that. Have a great day!



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 11:29 PM
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What's funny is if you do a Google search for Google Rising.. tons of links come up for Jupiter Ascending, the movie. You'd think you'd get other links about the actual planet if you did that.. but nay.

My wife was at first quite interesting in seeing that film. So I tried to catch her off guard.. and said "So.. what was that movie you wanted to see? Jupiter...?" She immediately said "Ascending." So.. personally, I think the brain may trick folks Ascending.. rising.. but it was probably always ascending. And in fact, that's how I remember it.
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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex

It may have been their own little psy op to make the public aware on a mostly subconscious level that we need to take things in our own hands in order to ascend.

The reality shifts/corrections/timelines whatever you want to call them are actually addressed in Jupiter Ascending on several occasions. It is even pointed out that the memory redaction process of the aliens does not work on all humans if I remember right.



I think you are EXACTLY correct.. It's what I've been trying to tell people all my life, but I've had to stay off it, because whatever it is can detect you when you are still remembering things correctly..

I've been tortored by things.. Call em demons.. I decided it would be easier to become an alcoholic and make my body weak just so I couldn't feel the energy anymore.. It's so not fun..

But Now The Timing.. I have nothing to lose... The last time I was having dejavu everyday and synchronycities.. All these clues, I was learning so much.. And then the Demons, and the UFO.. MY brother seemed like he couldn't even SEE it... I had to keep showing him, as it inched closer.. He barely remembers this is a real event at all..

I've always been insanely stubborn.. I think this is part of the reason My memory stays intact.
I think Jupiter Rising would have been an epic movie if I could have stayed on that time line..

Something is wrong.. I don't like it.


If you ever watched the show LOST.. Desmond was the only dude who had his memory.. Everyone else when they shifted worlds, thought the new world was the only memory.. They lost the other.. Desmond remembered the future that hadn't happened yet because for him it was in his past.. He had a continuous consciousness line.. Other peoples consciousness changed as the time did..


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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit


My wife was at first quite interesting in seeing that film. So I tried to catch her off guard.. and said "So.. what was that movie you wanted to see? Jupiter...?" She immediately said "Ascending." So.. personally, I think the brain may trick folks Ascending.. rising.. but it was probably always ascending. And in fact, that's how I remember it.



Ummmm.. You havn't seen ANY of my posts in this thread have you... I posted countless links to Jupiter Rising.. Some of them edited right before my EYES....

And It was always Rising.. That's why I was never even convinced when jupiter ascending came out that it was even the right movie..

Search for "Jupiter Rising" Like that.. You can find traces of it, though it seems pretty well scrubbed.

I saw it as a preview in the movie theater. It was called Rising.


ME and the other Poster EVEN posted pictures.. of the SAME link.. Mine said Rising, and his said Ascending.. How is that even possible!?!
Think about it,.












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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: Pimpish
a reply to: universalbri

Cool. Like I said, if you want to keep your eyes closed and say it's not your memory we're in a different universe that's fine. I've seen many people on ATS, and in life, like that, it's no surprise. You see it all the time with religious types, not wanting to hurt their core beliefs so just refusing to look at or believe things that go against that. I'm fine with that. Have a great day!



How do you know it's him doing that, and not you??
You have a core belief it's all one world.. That's religious.

Did you even see where me and him have different internet? What the hell is that about?

But also you have a nice day. There isn't any reason we have to worry abotu having different opinions. You seem like a good guy. so. HAve a good one.


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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: universalbri

Funny. I don't recall saying I was the one with the perfect memory ;-)

*ring ring* Lindsay Lohan called. She wants her presumptive and self righteous attitude back.

This is what you wrote:


originally posted by: universalbri
Your memory may be terrible. Mine's not. Spot on with recognizing evidence of alternate realities lately rather than adhering to this 'we are flawed' concept



originally posted by: universalbri
But even then. I suspect this conversation is 'interpreted' to you - even if you do speak English - and that your knowledge base and pool of perspective based information may not align with mine, which suggests that some words and phrases - and heck - even cultural cues - may simply not have translations to you and your perceptual reality.

This is usually easy to spot when this occurs - as the reactions generally tend to take offense when there's any implication there's something they may not be aware of - and it's generally speaking an animosity or sarcasm ridden response.

is this a byproduct of a 'universal translator' which needs updated? Or of personal interpretation that suggests you need educated that science has advanced and what were theories are now commonly accepted facts?

This I do not know. But I suspect your response will provide a poker like 'tell' of your hand.


Universal ATS translator: You're saying if I don't agree with you I'm one of the sheeple.

No "animosity or sarcasm" intended on my part. That's just how it reads to me.



posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: DelMarvel

Universal ATS translator: You're saying if I don't agree with you I'm one of the sheeple.

No "animosity or sarcasm" intended on my part. That's just how it reads to me.


You translated incorrectly from my view.. He was not claiming a superior stance. He was actually saying you are not quite in the same world, and words/concepts/things understood by your brain control where you land, so you may not even be speaking ever so slightly the same language..

He wasn't meaning that you were a sheep. Only a different human.

And he slightly meant like in the matrix.. Anger often comes, from you being in the matrix, and someone around you you sense is trying to wake up. I've had it happen all my life.. It's why I organized my life to lack humans controlling anything about my life. And now I don't get the anger response..

It's in the matrix movie.. It's one of the most important parts of the movie.. Right near the beginning.. In the woman with the red dress program.



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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:00 AM
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a reply to: universalbri

Look what I found

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It quotes CNN too .

Maybe its natural . But the same words were used in almost half of the paragraphs ! WTF !

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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:09 AM
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originally posted by: Pimpish
I suggest you watch the 45 minute video I posted earlier on memory. I think you'll find it surprising and enlightening. The human memory is pretty terrible.

I have a photographic memory. However this is not why I recall the Berenstein spelling. It is because I loved reading, language, spelling, and specifically asked my Mother how to pronounce the surname of the authors as a child. Growing up in rural Canada, I knew of no one with surnames that were similar, so I could not hazard a guess. Her reply was that she believed it was pronounced "stine" but wasn't sure. Had it been "stain" - I would have never asked the question to begin with; and if I had, she would have been sure of her answer.

Fast forward to last year, when the initial Berenstein/stain thread started - I called my Mom and asked if she recalled these books about the bears. She did. Then I asked if she recalled the authors' surname. She did, and pronounced it the same way she did back then. She too, could not believe that they were different now, until I showed her.

So for me, this is most certainly not a memory issue. I also cannot fathom that so many people have fallen into Alzheimer's or the like - solely on this singular topic.



originally posted by: universalbri
Your memory may be terrible. Mine's not. Spot on with recognizing evidence of alternate realities lately rather than adhering to this 'we are flawed' concept and 'there's a pill or video that will only cost you a dollar to fix that'.

I can say the same for my own memory. Interesting aside, when at the Doctor's last, he seemed shocked to find I was not taking any pills or medications...like that's some kind of anomaly these days. Disconcerting to consider that it's more the norm to be taking at least one kind of pill than not in our society.



posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: MoonBlossom


So for me, this is most certainly not a memory issue. I also cannot fathom that so many people have fallen into Alzheimer's or the like - solely on this singular topic.




No that's not what happened..

We are ALL right..

Understand..
It was what you said.. But obviously it isn't now.. For me it always was..

We merged..


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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:11 AM
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I've had a recent mind boggle over the title of this movie as well when I was searching for the torrent.

I'm a frequent visitor to the website comingsoon.net, and when the trailer first appeared for this movie years ago (for those who don't know, the movies theatrical release has been delayed for over a year, don't know why) I'm 100% sure it was Jupiter Rising. I just thought that they changed the title of the movie because I remember comparing it to the movie Mercury Rising with Bruce Willis, and all the occultic meanings behind the titles. Just another movie that likes to hide an agenda out in the open. When you do a search for Jupiter Rising in google it displays "trailer" and "movie" etc. as the top searches.

As for the Berenstein Bears, I have a step-brother who raised his first kid with our parents inside the home we lived in at the time, this was around 2005/2006, and he would usually watch Spongebob, Lazytown and Berenstein Bears DVD's and I remember seeing a christmas episode and thought that the bears were Jewish because of the spelling of their name.

Something feels off about this, David Icke style.
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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:13 AM
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originally posted by: KnightLight
You translated incorrectly from my view.. He was not claiming a superior stance. He was actually saying you are not quite in the same world, and words/concepts/things understood by your brain control where you land, so you may not even be speaking ever so slightly the same language..

He wasn't meaning that you were a sheep. Only a different human.


Really? Let's see. Here's the takeaway just because I'm suggesting people's memories of how "Berenstain" was spelled might simply be incorrect:


originally posted by: universalbri
If that explanation doesn't make sense, you'd have to understand computer science, quantum and mechanical physics, at an applied and core level to fully know what I'm referring to.

But even then. I suspect this conversation is 'interpreted' to you - even if you do speak English - and that your knowledge base and pool of perspective based information may not align with mine, which suggests that some words and phrases - and heck - even cultural cues - may simply not have translations to you and your perceptual reality.

This is usually easy to spot when this occurs - as the reactions generally tend to take offense when there's any implication there's something they may not be aware of - and it's generally speaking an animosity or sarcasm ridden response.

Or of personal interpretation that suggests you need educated that science has advanced and what were theories are now commonly accepted facts?

This I do not know. But I suspect your response will provide a poker like 'tell' of your hand.


It's more polite than how this argument is usually presented but it's still the same accusation. He's suggesting he's more aware of "reality" than I am.

... "as the reactions generally tend to take offense when there's any implication there's something they may not be aware of"

And you're saying the same thing:


originally posted by: KnightLight
Anger often comes, from you being in the matrix, and someone around you you sense is trying to wake up.

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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:14 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

Things are getting jumbled.. And YES I saw the trailer to JUPITER RISING.. That's it.. I did wonder why it never came out.. And then when it finally did it wasn't the same..

havn't watched it, because, well the movie I wanted to watch doesn't exist anymore..

Did you see my posts showing RISING.. ?
Or the post by the other guy that showed my exact same link saying ascending, while mine said Rising??



posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:17 AM
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a reply to: DelMarvel

He wasn't being condescending.. I still read all those highlighted things as how I would say the same thing. And I'm nice to everybody.

And quantum mechanics DOES say we are not in the same world.

It's why I KNEW what the characters in Lost were about to say.. And the people I was with acted in Anger.. When I said it, sort of like you are.. And then the characters said what I already said.. I was right of course.. They saw me be right but still had the anger feeling..

Faraday was doing experiments with shooting rockets off the island, or onto the island.. His watch didn't match the timing of where the rocket should be.. As time went on things became more and more unrelated.. Your english might not even be the same as mine. That's all he was saying.. The Island is Earth.

Imagine that?

weird.


It's (everything) is RELATIVE to your mind.. As we move forward it will get even weirder.. Although for you it could all stay the same. hahahahaha...

Trust that I do not think I am better than you in any way. It's just different.
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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:30 AM
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From the title of the New York Times review of this movie:

Jupiter Ascending (2015)

Alternate title: Jupiter Rising

www.nytimes.com...

So, whoever is supposedly in charge of "scrubbing" on this one hasn't managed to get around to what is one of the most prominent sources in all of the mainstream media.



posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:35 AM
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originally posted by: KnightLight

It's why I KNEW what the characters in Lost were about to say.. And the people I was with acted in Anger.. When I said it, sort of like you are.. And then the characters said what I already said.. I was right of course.. They saw me be right but still had the anger feeling..


You don't see how a statement like this is condescending?

And by the way, I'm not angry. You're projecting your definition of the unenlightened ("sheeple") on to me.
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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: DelMarvel

Why would they scrub it anyway?

A deliberate attempt to mess with weaker minds?

And I can't believe people are still arguing Berenstain.

If someone thinks it was ever Berenstein, they're wrong, it's not some glitch in the matrix, or time slip, they're plainly and simply wrong.



posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:42 AM
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originally posted by: DelMarvel


You don't see how a statement like this is condescending?

And by the way, I'm not angry. You're projecting your definition of the unenlightened ("sheeple") on to me.


My quote says I feel like you are sort of having the same reaction other people have had to a similar telling of what I think is real.

I didn't mean that in any way that I am above you.

And you are right I felt when you said those words it had sort of an anger in it. That is my projection on you.

I can be wrong you know?

You seem pretty nice to me. I'm glad we are fleshing this out. I don't know the next step in this conversation, so please do reply.
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posted on Apr, 7 2015 @ 01:51 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: DelMarvel

Why would they scrub it anyway?

A deliberate attempt to mess with weaker minds?

And I can't believe people are still arguing Berenstain.

If someone thinks it was ever Berenstein, they're wrong, it's not some glitch in the matrix, or time slip, they're plainly and simply wrong.


In the original thread posted here there is a picture of both names.. On book spines in a stack.

And the Movie was called Jupiter Rising.. I already showed that in this thread..



The other guy who searched it foudn the SAME article.. Except it said Ascending.. Fourth Article..

The New York Times article for me says Rising btw..
Although not at first.. IT changed.. I watched it.

See that first link??

Over and over again the URL code and the Title and the article do NOT match.. And it's in Forbes and New York Times, and highly respected places and IN QUOTATION marks as the TITLE.. RISING..
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