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Retired NYPD cop mows down another driver in road rage, victim gets arrested

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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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NYPD refuses to arrest retired officer, arrests victim instead


According to the victim he was driving near the Casino in Queens and attempted to change lanes, the retired cop, Robert Muller, refused to let him do so, victim got out to get the retired officer's plate number and got hit by the officer's car. Somehow he ended up taking a ride on the hood for several blocks at a high rate of speed. Supposedly the retired cop's wife and child were in the car screaming for him to stop.



'We almost crashed into him and the car behind me almost crashed into me,' Corrales told the New York Daily News of the initial incident.


If this is true, either way, both could have been just as responsible for the road rage. The cop most certainly because he controlled the rate of speed in his vehicle. He could have stopped that car at any time, and he chose to wait. To "have a little fun with the guy". But that's ok because his buddies let him off the hook.



'He turned the wheels and I heard wheels screeching,' Corrales said.

'He hit me with the car and took off with me on the car and he was going fast.'

Corrlaes claims he held on the windshield wipers to make sure he did not fall off the car, and a few blocks later Muller stooped and he was able to get off.

He said of the incident; 'Seriously, the dude wanted to kill me. The look on his face was pure hate. There was an older woman and a kid in the car and I could hear them screaming at him to stop.'

When he returned to his car however, police arrived on the scene and arrested Corrales for menacing behavior, harassment and cracking Muller's windshield.


Two sets of laws. One for us, one for them. Whether Corrales got up on the car on his own or not, the retired officer knew better and should have stopped the vehicle. He KNEW not to drive around with the guy on the hood, yet he did it anyway. Something smells in this pigpen, and it's not the slop!




posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:01 PM
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The cop is supposed to be better than us. Is that not what they tell us to believe?

Cops are to be upstanding examples of society that citizens are to respect. Therefore they should lead the way by example.

If this story is true then the cop is nothing less than a road rage ass-hat and should be held just as accountable as anyone else would be.

JUDE!!



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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And NYPD got exactly what they wanted when they hired this guy way back when: pure sociopath. That's what they're looking for. Many mock the idea that LEO agencies have been (for decades now) nurturing a workforce culture of blind obedience to authority and contempt for the general citizenry. But it's true, and quite deliberate.

And here you have it, folks. The results are made plainly evident on a daily basis in this forum. These people are maniacal sociopaths wholly indoctrinated in the idea of their own supremacy as "public servants".

Exactly the kind of person the state would want in a martial law scenario. They've been working on this for a very long time now, so it should come as no surprise that retirees and "veterans" of LEO agencies suddenly pop like this.
edit on 4/4/15 by NthOther because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: jude11
The cop is supposed to be better than us. Is that not what they tell us to believe?

Cops are to be upstanding examples of society that citizens are to respect. Therefore they should lead the way by example.

If this story is true then the cop is nothing less than a road rage ass-hat and should be held just as accountable as anyone else would be.

JUDE!!


I know I should not be surprised, but why am I surprised??? Bah! I don't know anymore. Maybe now I'm finally losing faith in humanity and I really truly do not want to, but I think I am, and the thought severely depresses me.




posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:17 PM
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'the cop' ? he's retired , he's not a cop.

its a road rage incedent being twisted by the dailyfail and being promoted by ats's resident cop hater.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
'the cop' ? he's retired , he's not a cop.

its a road rage incedent being twisted by the dailyfail and being promoted by ats's resident cop hater.



"ats's resident cop hater. "

Only one?

JUDE!!



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: Anyafaj

Hmm. Not so sure here. The guy who GOT cut off is more likely the rager. The ex cop was the one doing the cutting. Why would he have road rage? The guy who got out of his car to confront another driver is the aggressor. If you threaten my family while standing in front of my car, you might get run down. The charges seem to agree.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku
'the cop' ? he's retired , he's not a cop.

its a road rage incedent being twisted by the dailyfail and being promoted by ats's resident cop hater.



I said retired cop. For one. I have a cousin in law who is a deputy sheriff in WV right now whom I admire very much and does a wonderful job. So no, not a cop hater. Just the ones who think they're above the law.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: jude11

originally posted by: Rikku
'the cop' ? he's retired , he's not a cop.

its a road rage incedent being twisted by the dailyfail and being promoted by ats's resident cop hater.



"ats's resident cop hater. "

Only one?

JUDE!!


I've worked very hard at this! I Shan't let you guys down! Time to go find more cop hating articles! Away!



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: Anyafaj

Hmm. Not so sure here. The guy who GOT cut off is more likely the rager. The ex cop was the one doing the cutting. Why would he have road rage? The guy who got out of his car to confront another driver is the aggressor. If you threaten my family while standing in front of my car, you might get run down. The charges seem to agree.


I think it's somewhere in the middle to tell you the truth. I think they were both involved, because the retired officer did put his foot on the gas, he did drive with the guy on his hood of his car, so I think the truth of the story lies in the middle. I think they were both a bit at fault. If the fists were flying and it was Seattle, they might have termed it mutual combat. Not sure how it would work with a car involved???



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Anyafaj

This agression will Not stand,-. - Man!
It will Not Stand!!!



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: NthOther
And NYPD got exactly what they wanted when they hired this guy: pure sociopath. That's what they're looking for. Many mock the idea that LEO agencies have been (for decades now) nurturing a workforce culture of blind obedience to authority and contempt for the general citizenry. But it's true, and quite deliberate.



They need these types to keep the citizens in check because they know eventually enough Americans are not going to put up with the New World Order Nationless Corporate Utopia they have in mind.

The meme being out out by the wealthy elite is that Americans have to live within their means.
Translation, accept a lower standard of living.

The ones pulling the strings are not Pro Americans but Pro Globalists and the Average American citizen has to take a cut in pay and lifestyle when "competing" with the rest of the world with no National Protections.

I say competing in italics because it is not voluntary competition nor Free Market Economics when other countries are not playing by the same rules like Communist Chinese uprooting 250 million people from their farm lands to go work in the cities which has a major effect on the supply and demand labor equation.

They want everyone to be slaves to the technocratic elite

No true American would ever agree to Big Government booting out American Citizens by the millions from their lands but you do not hear a squeak about this rights violation from the Big Business Supporters



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: Rikku

its a road rage incedent being twisted by the dailyfail and being promoted by ats's resident cop hater.

How many "incidents" will it take? You've been around here long enough to know how to discern s# from Shinola most of the time. We all put our little spin on things, but facts are nonetheless facts.

And we are bombarded with objective facts suggesting the public is now the enemy of law enforcement every day. How long will people continue to make excuses for these bastards?

"Well, not all cops are...". Just stop. In this day and age, you have to have a mental disorder (sociopathy) to even sign up to be a cop. Or a complete idiot, one of the two or both. If you can't see what the police have become in this country, you have no business carrying a gun. If you do see what the police have become, and you still want to be a part of it, you definitely have no business carrying a gun.

These people are armed lunatics with licenses to kill, and are a bigger threat to the safety of our streets than any other gang.

And yes, even the retired ones. Especially them. They played the game long enough and well enough to get a pension out of it. At your expense.


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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: Urantia1111

Whether the guy was the road rager or not, the facts are the retired cop hit him and drove around with him on his car for some time. That is unarguably assault with a deadly weapon, which is what it is any time you intentionally hit someone, especially unarmed, with a vehicle. Whether they are both at fault, one assaulted the other and if things had gone differently this could have been vehicular manslaughter.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Urantia1111

Whether the guy was the road rager or not, the facts are the retired cop hit him and drove around with him on his car for some time. That is unarguably assault with a deadly weapon, which is what it is any time you intentionally hit someone, especially unarmed, with a vehicle. Whether they are both at fault, one assaulted the other and if things had gone differently this could have been vehicular manslaughter.



Exactly! But hey, it's MY fault for posting this! I AM the resident cop hater you know. LOL No, in all seriousness, someone could have been seriously injured, but the thing that kills me is the retired cop didn't even get a TICKET for this! Not a one! But the guy hanging on, he was arrested. To me, that is favoritism. At the very minimum, the retired officer should have received a ticket for the dangerous driving with the guy on his vehicle. They BOTH should have gotten a summons. I think this is an incident that needs investigation because it look like favoritism was applied.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Urantia1111

Whether the guy was the road rager or not, the facts are the retired cop hit him and drove around with him on his car for some time. That is unarguably assault with a deadly weapon, which is what it is any time you intentionally hit someone, especially unarmed, with a vehicle. Whether they are both at fault, one assaulted the other and if things had gone differently this could have been vehicular manslaughter.


If the angry motorist was threatening the retired officer and intentionally blocking his car from leaving, I say it falls under self defense and defense of his family who were also in the car. The rager held on to the car as it drove. I wouldn't have stopped for some time either. Aggressive lunatic on the hood? What else does one do to protect one's family?

ETA and OP I'm not bashing you for posting this. Just trying to illustrate that what happened is understandable from a perspective different from yours. Some dude jumps out of his car in the middle of NYC and squares off against a car because he doesn't like the driver's merging technique? Who wouldn't hit the gas?
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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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Poor aggressive victim needs to learn Tags are in the back why was he in front of the car Blocking traffic? Seems he was in the wrong and perhaps words did fly.
Sure the cop that's X cop shouldn't have drove off with the guy on the hood. But also then again road rage dorks can as well kill you damage your car etc. Check youtube.

I was not there and won't actually say the x cop should have been charged. The supposed victim was just writing down the plate. Right I bet.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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Cops are very quick to remind us that a car is a deadly weapon. Perhaps a person on the road is one too? I wouldn't have been surprised if the retired cop pulled out a retired service revolver and shot the dangerous and threatening unarmed pedestrian. After all, he had a family, they were even in the car with him.
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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 10:25 PM
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Even retired cops need to go home at the end of the day, you know.

Even if it means literally plowing through citizens with their cars.

What a mess...


tear it down!



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: Urantia1111

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Urantia1111

Whether the guy was the road rager or not, the facts are the retired cop hit him and drove around with him on his car for some time. That is unarguably assault with a deadly weapon, which is what it is any time you intentionally hit someone, especially unarmed, with a vehicle. Whether they are both at fault, one assaulted the other and if things had gone differently this could have been vehicular manslaughter.


If the angry motorist was threatening the retired officer and intentionally blocking his car from leaving, I say it falls under self defense and defense of his family who were also in the car. The rager held on to the car as it drove. I wouldn't have stopped for some time either. Aggressive lunatic on the hood? What else does one do to protect one's family?

ETA and OP I'm not bashing you for posting this. Just trying to illustrate that what happened is understandable from a perspective different from yours. Some dude jumps out of his car in the middle of NYC and squares off against a car because he doesn't like the driver's merging technique? Who wouldn't hit the gas?



I know you aren't. You're good. And a different perspective is always good, especially when done in a friendly manner such as you do.



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