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What's wrong with Liberals?

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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: freakwars

I believe my statement was we havent seen true capitalism since the 20s. Not that capitalism during the 20s was superior to... anything, really. And yes, that 200 year old document is the law of the land above both Federal and State law. It's kind of important. And you'll need to explain 3 to me.




posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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The premise of the thread seems to be that there IS something wrong with being liberal or having some left leaning ideals and that the conservative view is correct or better.

We know from previous elections that republicans say they're for smaller government but yet the government only grows.
We know that republicans always say they are for the common man, but they cater to the big oil companies and other large corporations. Think Koch brothers, for one.

Republicans also usually have blinders on saying things like "Obama has ruined the country." because Limbaugh told them to say it and believe it.

There's definitely something wrong with conservatives. LOL



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Well since I'm not a Conservative I'm not sure how the thread I created would be about Conservative views being correct or better. As I've stated, as recently as the last page, I have real issues with Conservatives. There is definitely something wrong with mainstream Conservatives.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: STTesc

saying "But what has worked is TRUE Capitalism, something this world hasn't seen since at least the 20s." implies that it is better

if we obeyed bad laws then that document would never have been written

3 seems pretty clear to me, you're an American nationalist, which is a position that would only make sense to me if America were occupied by another country



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: STTesc
a reply to: amazing

Well since I'm not a Conservative I'm not sure how the thread I created would be about Conservative views being correct or better. As I've stated, as recently as the last page, I have real issues with Conservatives. There is definitely something wrong with mainstream Conservatives.


Good! That we can agree on at least!

What really is the worst thing about liberals/democrats? They tend to tax to much. I agree there as well. But when you talk about a nanny state or big government, the republicans have them beat. How much in debt did our two most recent wars cause and how come government never shrinks under a republican president and how come republicans never talk about NSA and survielence in regards to a nanny state.

In reality, the only thing I can come up with that I hate about Liberals is that they tax too much. They always want to raise taxes.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: freakwars
a reply to: STTesc

saying "But what has worked is TRUE Capitalism, something this world hasn't seen since at least the 20s." implies that it is better

if we obeyed bad laws then that document would never have been written

3 seems pretty clear to me, you're an American nationalist, which is a position that would only make sense to me if America were occupied by another country


I believe true Capitalism to be the answer, yes. This nation was built on true Capitalism, it helped us achievement being number one in manufacturing, infrastructure, education and military might. But we haven't seen true Capitalism since the early 20s. It made us a rich nation, a proud nation. And I stand by those statements.

And that's why we have a way to amend the Constitution. If something is a bad law, it can be removed. But you don't just burn the document because it's 200 years old.

I'm simply a proud American. I love my country. And I feel that she has issues, cancer almost. And that too much of either political side is bad. I simply view Liberals and the left as the bigger threat, that's MY opinion.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Social engineering. That's probably my biggest problem. This idea that "you have freedom of speech unless you disagree". It's an issue. Modern day witch hunts, throwing around the race card, hypocrisy. The social issues boil my blood.

I have an issue with authority. I don't need to be told what to say or how to think. We're not giving up our guns. We're not giving up our rights. We're not going to camps.We're not going to be reeducated. And I view the political left as the main force in driving these issues.
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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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you don't have an issue with authority, you like to think you do. what you have an issue with is threats to the authority that you share in to an extent. if you actually had an issue with authority you'd be an anarchist



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:38 PM
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The middle east has been at war with itself for hundreds of years and there aren't many African nations that do much more than enslave each other and move drugs. That's simply the reality of the world. And yes, without European influence, specifically the Roman Empire, I doubt much would have been accomplished. But that's my opinion based on the fact that these nation continue to either wage war with themselves or enslave each other to this day.


That statement goes to show you are not informed about the reality of the world and aren't knowledgeable about the history of the middle east and africa.



And yes, without European influence, specifically the Roman Empire, I doubt much would have been accomplished.


And finally the truth comes out. Just come on out and say "The whole world owes a debt to Rome and Europeans for what they have." because you sound excatly like a racist . Look at the first definition.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:38 PM
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darn double post.mods please delete this.
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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: STTesc
Can someone please explain this to me. I just don't understand how anyone can actually agree with the progressive mindset. I mean, if you're an American, right? And you believe in what his nation was founded on, right? Why would you actively go out of your way to destroy your own culture? Sure, I guess some don't see it that way, we all can disagree on certain issues, but changing the basic structure that made this country? At what point do you look at what you stand for and think to yourself "this just isn't American"?

I'm a registered Republican, but I don't consider myself Conservative. There are certain issues, like endless war, that I don't agree with. I consider myself more Libertarian. But party isn't everything to me. I place my country above whatever letter stands before my name. And to be honest, if a Democrat ran on the principles I agree on, I wouldn't mind going across the line and casting my vote. But that's not happening in modern America. All I see is "think our way or you're wrong". It's literally the intolerant preaching tolerance, modern day witch hunts.

Social engineering is bad. Socialism doesn't work. Communism doesn't work. These things have been proven throughout history. But what has worked is TRUE Capitalism,

cough, you are having a freaking laugh. Oh let me guess:

"If it wasn't for capitalism you would not have all these nice goods like TV's etc"

wrongSpectacular narrow minded BS. Capitalism did not exist before the industrial revolution ie before mass production existed. Mass production is absolutely not capitalism. The method of control of the means of mass production is capitalism.

Mass production produced TV's and cars. Capitalism sucked the profits from mass manufacture into the hands of the few.

Jesus H! It's not rocket science it's bleedin obvious.

Ever been down a coal mine and had the miners tell you how things were before unions? That was capitalism, and it was nasty. Ever been to New Lanark which is just down the road from where I live? Oh perhaps not you live in the US. Well look up New Lanark (lanarkshire Scotland) on wiki and read. Now be careful you will educating yourself which is most certainly not the capitalist way..........



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 05:50 PM
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Capitalism functions correctly in the sense that it serves its intended purpose of enriching a handful of men with the spoils of everyone else's labor



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: STTesc
a reply to: amazing

Well since I'm not a Conservative...


You are full of crap.

👣

P.S. your avatar is too sexy for you



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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: cenpuppie

And we're back to calling people racist. Again.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: BlueMule

originally posted by: STTesc
a reply to: amazing

Well since I'm not a Conservative...


You are full of crap.

👣

P.S. your avatar is too sexy for you




I consider myself Libertarian.

P.S. more personal attacks. join the line.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: yorkshirelad

Capitalism is bad because coal mines. The hundreds of millions killed via Communism and Fascism isn't dangerous. Coal mines. That's the real threat.

Everybody watch out for the coal mines!



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: freakwars
Capitalism functions correctly in the sense that it serves its intended purpose of enriching a handful of men with the spoils of everyone else's labor


And Socialism functions correctly in the sense that it pays people to sit on their ass on welfare with the spoils of everyone else's labor. See? I can do it too.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: freakwars

Anarchy is interesting, it's never fully been tested, but I believe that at some point you need some kinda laws. As much as I have a problem with authority, and I have since I was a kid, I favor justice above all else. Bit of a contradiction on my end, but it is what it is.



posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: STTesc

If you didn't deserve to be called out for your bull#, I wouldn't be doing it. You walk like a duck, talk like a duck.

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P.S you aren't worthy of a sexy avatar


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posted on Apr, 8 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: BlueMule
a reply to: STTesc

If you didn't deserve to be called out for your buckshot, I wouldn't be doing it. You walk like a duck.

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P.S you aren't worthy of a sexy avatar



See don't bother refuting any points I've made, don't bother engaging in any discussion. Just run around throwing insults and personal attacks at people. That's real mature! What are you? 12? # out my thread.




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