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HERE is the CORE reason I'm at WAR with PC...

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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: Voyaging

HENCE my mixed feelings ,I NEVER insisted others breath MY poisons.
THAT is patently RUDE.
Like farting at the dinner table..NOT a pro there.




posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: ProleUK

NOT any more.
The US army is micromanaging now ,you have to take ONLINE classes, Drinking is shunned SOMKING is getting to be a taboo as well,I have mixeed feelings about smoking myself ,But the rampant girly boys who are offended by the way the wind blows won't jump into a firefight when bullets start striking meat.
IST IS ugly IT IS wrong but IT IS NOW needed when our LEADERS screw up.
CHANGE th eMIGHT MAKES right EASTERN logic FIRST.


Im sure the army is making use of modern technology.

Drinking and smoking (both I love) really shouldn't be encouraged, not being funny but by doing so you will put your unit at risk, unless just training.

Im not sure what you mean by girly boys. If someone has the ability to fight let them, you will be the traitor to your own side by hindering their ability. If they cant cut the mustard, they should be weeded out of the unit, not by you or their fellow comrades just because they dont like something about them.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: stosh64

Agreed but when it comes time to pay the piper WE ALL may have a problem.
THE corrupt bull##it will ecentually come to a head, THEN who will fight for America?
Hopefully my welcomed death will preceed that day.


I have the UTMOST RESPECT for you and ALL Veterans.

Please don't take my comment about corrupt leadership as a knock on the men and women in our services.

Or in ANY WAY take it that that lack of Honor somehow carries over to our men and women who have, and are serving.

I agree with what you and John have been saying relevant to life IN the service. PC BS has NO place in a Warriors life.

It only makes me sad the prospect of wasting your, or any ones life due to the corrupt policies of the scum in Washington.
And I can understand the lower number of Upstanding, Honorable young men, Americas best, who would want to die for the 'cause' of these scum.

God Bless you and all for your service,
Your humble servant,
Steve

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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: ProleUK

ACTUALLY we ONLY have the UCMJ as our law, we OF COURSE violate that book AS WELL in order to succeed and survive but warriors should have the instict of self preservation ONLY up to a certain point.
The success of the mission is THE ONLY mantra that is universal.
We are known for our agression as THE WORLD needs "Cowboys" to fight thugs.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

Civies do have influence of an army, public opinion generates change.

Like I say if changes weren't made to reflect modern society youd still have segregated units.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: stosh64

Men are now killing themselves realizing that very point I assure you. Mostly those who joined for school or money ,kids who had no direction in life.
Honorable WARRIORS who are existentially embarrassed by the American people and WANT only to be left alone isolate and implode.
We obviously EMPHATICALLY agree,but if NO ONE volunteered we all know THE WRONG people show up as draftees to die outside their intended purpose or will.
NO ONE wants that again, EVER.
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posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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So in all, this is just one sided stories saying how change is bad.

The guy can't even get the issues right, the magazine thing wasn't even about a hostile work environment it is about men coming back from deployment addicted to pron and thier families being tired of it.

Sorry that your liberty isn't so free any more, you can thank the people before you that decided to get drunk and rape and kill the people and their population getting tired of it.

I'll agree with him on the gun thing but as I was so adamantly told not to long ago, you have 0 rights as a service member. So in reality that was a lawful order.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: Voyaging
a reply to: cavtrooper7

I don't know, from my point of view everything about war has changed accept the killing and end goals. And don't be so quick to judge touchy feely types. Who knows, one day one of those types may be in a situation where they an help you or someone in the battlefield out. An empath could gain the trust of an enemy and set them up for an ambush or anything really. I do agree however, that it is ridiculous how structured the off time is for service members in the navy.


Anyone with empathy that would gain the trust if the enemy to set them up for a slaughter would be a sociopath st minimum.

Thinks of someone who empathises with others yet sets others up for a slaughter.

Do you even think this touchy feely crsp out before you post it?

Next time think it through and follow it out to the end.

There is a reason so many combat vets do much alike.

It us a winning mindset.

If touchy feely got the job done, it would be the most prevalent of combat vets.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: ProleUK

We aren't basing our opinions on a lie are we?
If the girly boy fights well and can HANDLE others lifestyles ALONG SIDE theirs THEY are welcome ,of course.
AGAIN this isn't some rag tag Russian platoon in Chechnya.
WE are profesionals. SOME of the best on the planet.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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AND for the record, Psychopaths and Sociopaths make LOUSY soldiers and are EASILY read as such on the squad level.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: stosh64

Men are now killing themselves realizing that very point I assure you. Mostly those who joined for school or money ,kids who had no direction in life.
Honorable WARRIORS who are existentially embarrassed by the American people and WANT only to be left alone isolate and implode.
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I am all to aware of this as one of my best friends is no longer with us. I blame our government for his death.

It is IMHO, intentional cloward piven alinsky strategy that killed him.

Maybe one day we can fight the REAL enemy.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

AGAIN with the porn.
SMALL potatoes, YES P.C. is VERY bad,wrong and being stupidly appied,THAT COVER IT FOR YOU?



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: ProleUK

We still do have segregated units how many women do you think are in the infantry ? 0



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Ok yeah I can agree with that the, I had no idea about that. Why would they even let a civilian design it lol.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: ProleUK
a reply to: johnwick

Im perfectly entitled to an opinion thank you.

Im sure judging by your view, the us army wouldnt have women ser ing and still have segregated units based on race too.

What you do or how you unwind in your own time is up to you



Yes because I said any of that right?

Race doesn't matter.

Gender doenst matter much.

In fact some of the toughest folks I ever met in the military were tiny hot women.

Rabid pitbulls during a fight is what they were.

I don't know who was more scared of them, us or them.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: ProleUK
a reply to: johnwick

Civvies do and should have a say in how you act, you are serving them.

Its not your militia , you're in the army now, just do as you are told ; p


That is absolute bscrazy horse crap.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Sremmos80

AGAIN with the porn.
SMALL potatoes, YES P.C. is VERY bad,wrong and being stupidly appied,THAT COVER IT FOR YOU?


Just saying if he is gonna bitch about it, get the story straight. It came from the families of the service members.

And that was his big gripe, he focused on that pretty hard.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Voyaging
a reply to: johnwick

Lol you're funny. I don't believe I mentioned one thing about the wardrobe our soldiers wear. But I totally agree that soldiers should try not to be cute and cuddly... it might not help them too much if they were. And I'm sorry but I just don't agree that I can't form my own opinion on what I choose. Now who is the one stepping on others' rights?


I didn't say you can't have an opinion, I said soldiers should decide their culture and how they conduct war.

There is a difference, a very big one.

You can say whatever you want or have any opinion you desire.

You do not have a right to waist soldiers lives because you think you understand war, or the life a sdier lives.



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: Voyaging

There is RAMPANT cronyism in the US Govt,an academic got a bright idea and overthought it.www.slate.com...



posted on Apr, 4 2015 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: ProleUK

As far as I'm concerned civies ought to keep their opinions to themselfs and the beer flowing and the women coming. That's your way of honoring


Oh...the life of a soldier ww2 or earlier.

It was the romantic version of a soldiers life, forever gone I supposed.



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