originally posted by: hotel1
I present these opinions of others for discussion as I found them sufficiently thought provoking and worthy of exploration.
Gah. I may very well get slammed from all directions for what's coming. I can only speak honestly from how I personally see it, and someone else might
have another opinion. Is there empirical data to assist us, we who are disheartened at the lack of both true love and real companionship in the world
today? The lack of integrity, truth and loyalty? Or at least the lack we sense is there? I would like to raise two issues.
Please, only throw soft objects my way, no beer cans or shoes and the like?
I think some of it does have to do with this "new" feminism. Some of it is so ridiculous I feel ashamed for women sometimes. Men are truly turned down
and off by this sense of constant condemnation. If you're a straight man with a penis, then you're a target or an enemy or both. Even worse, if you
happen to be a white man. Men are automatically condemned by virtue of that penis (even if they've never done anything bad with it) by women, for
everything from rape to being passed over for promotion.
Yes, yes, the war-mongering, oppression and murder... the rape, slavery, and depravity throughout the history of the world has been perpetrated by
men, I wonder if that is simply because throughout time, it has been men who are hunters and protectors, providers and decision makers? The strong of
the two sexes of us. By virtue of their penis?
Well, I admit it may have some mystical powers,
But it is more, perhaps, that women have been the fairest.
, and of course, the nurturer. It would be disingenuous, of course,
to omit that women; especially in the last 20 years, have become increasingly violent. Women these days are more and more the perpetrators of domestic
violence, murder, child abuse and sexual assault of children.
It all reminds me of a very short answer that Christina Hoff Sommers gave in to the accusation that men were obsolete. Make no mistake, Sommers is a
feminist. But she is a "fact-checking" feminist and she works to keep women and their feminism honest. Check out her 4 minute answer to that 'men are
ARE MEN OBSOLETE?
One of the responders to the video gave reply; and I admit it made me both wince and feel a pang of sadness. The young man said: "I'm beyond caring
at this point. If I am considered "obsolete" then I'm totally fine with that. I'll just go back to playing video games and minding my own business as
I always have. As far as I'm concerned there was never a competition to begin with, just a bunch of very unpleasant people shouting at me because I
happened to be born with a penis."
Listen up ladies.
I also think men have become porn-damaged and celebrity blinded from so young an age due to 24/7 instant porn access via the Internet. They think
women should have sex like porn stars and look like the photoshopped and airbrushed faces and bodies of Hollywood they come to believe are the
. Forget if she has a good heart, is faithful, would die to protect you. If she doesn't screw like those porn images or look like the latest
ideal woman..... meh. Right?
C'mon guys. Here is two-minutes worth of why that is poison to any meaningful relationship:
How Does A Man's Use Of Pornography Shape And Harm A Woman's Heart And View Of Herself?
Also, the trouble is still that men feel a need to plow as many fresh green fields as his tractor has gas to plow. He has trouble staying in his own
backyard. No, not all men, but enough to make a girl think twice.
All joking aside, both men and women, I think, are contributing to the demise of the traditional relationship. It isn't the fault of one sex, and
neither feminism nor porn and Hollywood, encompasses all of what we are doing to ourselves and each other. You can't even bring gay marriage into
this. Heteros are destroying themselves. Whomever is gay has always been and always will be, they aren't concerned with nor can they diminish hetero
relationships. This one's all on us.
What I think hurts us in a real and big way is that when we try to enter new relationships, we have already painted the person with the paintbrush of
the past hurt. I know a lot of guys have been treated quite shabbily by shallow mindless women, and women too, they have been abused, cheated on, lied
to and abandoned.... but no one else is that person who did those things to us. Why do we do that? Why do we bring everything from the past into a
hopeful future? It makes no sense, but we do it. And it is doomed from the start.
If we could turn back time. Not too far... I would like to be able to smoke or vote or pick my own man or sit in a theatre or bar by myself. But go
far enough back that life is simpler and richer, with focus on relationships and family and making memories. Less of the internet, porn, war against
the penis, social media.....
ha! Yeah. I've been through enough that I don't have to apologize for being a dreamer. -__-
I kind of sort of feel this is the matter. But a solution? Perhaps, we've already fallen over the cliff?
edit on 4-4-2015 by StarlightNine because: link typo