Inuit elders warn NASA, the earth has shifted

I'll be the first to admit I' m still not fully getting it. We moved or didn't move. The stars are the same so we didn't sounds right but we wobble slightly different?
So I can't figure out how the stars could be exactly in the same place. Totally lost but hey I'm from Florida now and might have A Virus That Makes You Stupid Please forgive me ATS and Max_TO in Particularly. I have been proven wrong.

a reply to: eriktheawful
Thanks for showing me my error. Sorry to have troubled you The last post of mine was supposed to be a reply to you but it didn't work that way..

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Does the OP think that the Indians live in teepees and hunt deer and buffalo for food? Dude they go into their heated houses when it gets cold and they shop at the grocery store for food.
Maybe some Amazon or some African tribes still hunt and a percentage of the Adirondacks but the rest of us go to markets or in developed countries to the grocery stores.

Since the Inuit tribes( Eskimoes) live in the most northern Arctic regions, grocery stores don't exist . They do hunt! Heated homes too? Only Africans live in undeveloped regions you say?

Look at the Earth's night sky view to see how well lit up the northern part of Canada is, which is in your continent by the way. Hopefully that gives you an idea when you see there's no lights on. Have a good look at all the snow while you're at it.

a reply to: Gothar

More in tune than NASA? Give me a break.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AutumnWitch657

There are still some places in Alaska where it is close to subsistence and you do have to lay in a sufficient store of food because you don't have, can't count on regular supplies through the winter months. As such it is still very important to be tied in to the land and be able to read it.

The idea that these people are some sort of "noble" savages is totally wrong. Most of them aren't even living in the same areas they were in at the start of the twentieth century. They use snowmobiles and boats with GPS units that wouldn't work if the earth had shifted. The differences in the visibility of the sun on which these claims were based has been shown to be the result of climate change and that is the opinion of the educated members of these peoples.

originally posted by: dr1234
a reply to: Gothar

More in tune than NASA? Give me a break.

You don't even need NASA. There are thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of amateur astronomers with GoTo scopes that wouldn't work if the earth had shifted.

Not to mention anyone could make a sextant for next to nothing that can prove the stars haven't moved. Or all the ancient monuments based on astronomical events that still line up the exact same way they always have.

well, it has already been established this started back in 2011. In fact my cities airport was one affected.

Foxnews

The planet's northern magnetic pole is drifting slowly but steadily towards Russia -- and it's throwing off planes in Florida.

Tampa International Airport was forced to readjust its runways Thursday to account for the movement of the Earth's magnetic fields, information that pilots rely upon to navigate planes. Thanks to the fluctuations in the force, the airport has closed its primary runway until Jan. 13 to change taxiway signs to account for the shift, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

"The Earth's poles are changing constantly, and when they change more than three degrees, that can affect runway numbering," Bergen said.

While rejiggering the runways is a very extreme event, the fields are constantly in flux and constantly being remapped, explained Lorne McKee, a scientist with the geomagnetism division of Natural Resources Canada.

"Since the fields change relatively slowly, they're marked out at 10 degree increments," he explained. The field has swung from approximately 10 degrees east in the late 16th century to 25 degrees west in the early 19th century -- before returning to a current value of about 3 degrees west.

So, yea sorry Inuit peoples, not to downplay your declarations, but our scientists already kind of figured it out a few years ago.

a reply to: DYepes

You're talking about two different things.

Your linked article refers to the movement of the magnetic north pole, not a physical movement of the earth's axis.

I thought the pole was part of the axis isnt it?? The north pole is not going to move and the south pole just sit there right?? I did not finish high school so I am going to plead ignorance on this. Would someone educate me please??

originally posted by: DYepes
I thought the pole was part of the axis isnt it?? The north pole is not going to move

The North Magnetic pole is constantly moving, have a look at a decent map and you will see the magnetic variation listed.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: hellobruce

Yes I am aware of the fact that it is always moving, I happened to include that information with my first response only three posts up. You cut off half my sentence, and it should read like this

the north pole is not going to move and the south pole just sit there right??

That is why I asked it as a question because the poster before me had stated the Inuit declaration was referring to the entire axis, and I stated my level of education equates the poles as simply the up and down of this axis. Therefore I pleaded for someone to elaborate for me to close this gap of ignorance.

So does the South pole just sit in the same place when the North pole moves?? If they move together is that not the axis moving??? Or are we talking full pole reversal that has not occurred in 780,000 years???

originally posted by: DYepes
If they move together is that not the axis moving???

Axis of what? The south magnetic pole is moving as well.

en.wikipedia.org...

Or are we talking full pole reversal that has not occurred in 780,000 years

en.wikipedia.org...

A brief complete reversal, known as the Laschamp event, occurred only 41,000 years ago during the last glacial period.

a reply to: DYepes

North pole is on the axis not to be mistaken for north magnetic pole which shifts from changes in earths magma.

a reply to: hellobruce
yea I kind of pulled that number out of my a$$ . I did say I did not know jack about this stuff. I think I saw that number in a related article in passing, and just mentioned it.


a reply to: glend
ok yea here is a response that makes sense to me. So then what happened recently was a "magnetic north pole" , and the north pole at the axis is "true north" , am I getting that right? I think I remember something like that at some point in my years?

originally posted by: DYepes
I thought the pole was part of the axis isnt it?? The north pole is not going to move and the south pole just sit there right?? I did not finish high school so I am going to plead ignorance on this. Would someone educate me please??

The "actual" north pole is the end of the axis on which the earth turns. If the tilt of the earth changed the north and south poles would move relative to the sun and the sun and stars would appear to be in different places which is what is being claimed in this thread. This is physically impossible because of the vast amount of energy that would be required to alter movement of the earth and were it to somehow happen the crust of the earth would be so disrupted life would probably not survive.

The magnetic pole is the point where the electromagnetic field of the earth points down and this is constantly in flux but the earth remains in stable rotation.

The Earth is tilted approx 23 degrees ... The wobble within this is negligible ...
If you were to draw a line between True North (not magnetic) and South ... it would trace a circle over a period of approx 25,000 years ... (A processional cycle) This line points out the Northern Star Polaris at present but is gradually shifting ... In the distant past stars such as Vega would have been the Northern Star ... and will be again in distant future

The tilt is what causes the seasons ... and causes the Sun to seemingly rise and fall between the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn

There are so many links to this information ... with diagrams and vids ... well worth a search or two

a reply to: DelMarvel

There are plenty of credible valid links that show that the 9.0 earthquake in Japan in March 2011 moved the earths axis by a few degrees. This isn't some doom porn nonsense. This actually happened.



www.nasa.gov...

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

There are plenty of credible valid links that show that the 9.0 earthquake in Japan in March 2011 moved the earths axis by a few degrees. This isn't some doom porn nonsense. This actually happened

The Japan quake of 2011 shortened Earth's day by 1.8 micro seconds ...

People are always claiming NASA hides things from us. Like rogue planets and the man on the moon. Yet when NASA actually does tell us something no one want to acknowledge it.
Amazing deductive reasoning there. Just amazing.

a reply to: artistpoet

No one claimed it was an epic change. About 6.5 inches actually. But still it's true it's not something made up. It's also not something anyone would notice.
Certainly not the apparently God like Inuit Indians.