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1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: SkepticOverlord
Exactly my thoughts as to why this is such a non-story in the first place: Who honestly is tacky enough to turn a wedding into a pizza party?
originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
Why did this insidious theocratic law because a lesbian-gay-bisexula-transexual issue?
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Ahabstar
You know... as strong a proponent of "gay rights" as I am, I actually waffle back and forth on this issue. Truth is, I hate the idea of a business owner being legally forced to serve someone that they don't want to serve. But it's also not fair for a person to walk into a public accommodation and be told, "sorry, you're a sinner and therefore, you're not welcome here", when EVERYONE who enters the business is a sinner. Really what's the difference in that and refusing service to a black family?
Should the law force businesses to serve black people? Or Christians? Or women?
If we DON'T legally force businesses to serve the ENTIRE public, what do we have? A bunch of PUBLIC businesses whose owner's PERSONAL RELIGIOUS beliefs have the backing and support of the state government, and they're free to discriminate however they see fit. Can you explain to me how that's not a direct and solid relationship between church and state?
To be fair, a storefront owned by a sole proprietor is not a "public accomodation" it is a private property.
Q. What are public accommodations?
A. A public accommodation is a private entity that owns, operates, leases, or leases to, a place of public accommodation. Places of public accommodation include a wide range of entities, such as restaurants, hotels, theaters, doctors' offices, pharmacies, retail stores, museums, libraries, parks, private schools, and day care centers. Private clubs and religious organizations are exempt from the ADA's title III requirements for public accommodations.
Q. Will the ADA have any effect on the eligibility criteria used by public accommodations to determine who may receive services?
A. Yes. If a criterion screens out or tends to screen out individuals with disabilities, it may only be used if necessary for the provision of the services. For instance, it would be a violation for a retail store to have a rule excluding all deaf persons from entering the premises, or for a movie theater to exclude all individuals with cerebral palsy. More subtle forms of discrimination are also prohibited. For example, requiring presentation of a driver's license as the sole acceptable means of identification for purposes of paying by check could constitute discrimination against individuals with vision impairments. This would be true if such individuals are ineligible to receive licenses and the use of an alternative means of identification is feasible.
That description is really vague.
If the sole proprietor decided to call his storefront a club, and only people who had a membership card (which keep in mind could be given out for free) could buy from his store, would that not make it a club? Would he even need a membership card at all?