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HIDDEN CAMERA: Gay Wedding Cake At Muslim Bakeries

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posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: WTFover

I lambasted nobody except the homophobic video maker.


Kindly read properly, or not at all!




posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: WTFover
a reply to: IAMTAT

That was directed at the poster who lambasted those who support your position. Personally, I support a business/property owner's right to not provide his/her labor to anyone he/she chooses, for whatever reason. If I walked into a store and the owner said, "Sorry, we don't serve people with bald spots," I would simply turn and walk away. Slavery ended, in the U.S. anyway, many years ago.


So did seperate sidewalks and water fountains...





posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs


On the subject of selling baked goods to LGBT.
Just serve the people their order.
Jerkwads!


Pardon me. Did I misread this statement?



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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I have trouble getting upset over a blatant set up.

The other incident was not a setup at all, this blatantly was such a thing. I think the discrimination is wrong, but as this one is not legitimate I have no emotional attachment to it at all.

It's not because they're Muslim and not Christian, but because it was specifically done to make a point. Which in turn dilutes the ability to make that point.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: WTFover

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs


On the subject of selling baked goods to LGBT.
Just serve the people their order.
Jerkwads!


Pardon me. Did I misread this statement?


Is that lambasting?

Or a suggestion for a better tomorrow?



Heck you could be right, wasn't my intention to "lambaste" anybody though...
Just to share my opinion.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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Just goes to show that all monotheistic religions are full of a-holes.

And lots of other ones are too.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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I'm glad that this is happening.

Perhaps the hyperbole and rhetoric and empty, vacuous, rantings and frothings can cease and everyone can discuss this rationally.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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A business should not be required to participate in anyone's lifestyle they have moral objections to. Baking a cake for a wedding is being directly involved, serving someone a meal in your restaurant is not being directly involved.
A seamstress should not be forced to sew klan robes.
But they should all be able to choose.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Now you are confusing public property (sidewalks) with private property (bakery) and the use of a piece of machinery (water fountain) with labor (baking a cake).


Edited for spelling only.
edit on 2-4-2015 by WTFover because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:21 PM
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I've just read more posts.

Perhaps we can't discuss this rationally.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I agree. I'm always happy to engage in civil discourse. Your signature is hilarious, by the way.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:23 PM
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originally posted by: WTFover
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Now you are confusing public property (sidewalks) with private property (bakery) and the use of pice of machinery (water fountain) with labor (baking a cake).


Not confusing them at all...

Mirroring the choice of discrimination maybe...

Conflating even...

But there is no confusion.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Shouldn't you be coloring eggs Easter bunny dude? Or is that going to offend somebody?
You are right though. People get emotionally involved and then it's all over.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

If intentional, you are correct, conflating is the proper word.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
I've just read more posts.

Perhaps we can't discuss this rationally.

Hope springs eternal. Odds improving with your learned presence.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: beezzer

Shouldn't you be coloring eggs Easter bunny dude? Or is that going to offend somebody?
You are right though. People get emotionally involved and then it's all over.


I hired some Asian outfit to do all the eggs. A handful of kids coloring all those eggs. And I'm only paying 5 bucks per day.

Just waiting for the ranting to begin.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
I also wonder if the Christian Defense Brigade we see in every thread will come in here and defend the "right of these Muslim bakeries to deny service to anyone."

I hate every religion equally and I don't think that any religion should be exempt from the same scrutiny that Christians receive.



This isnt about Christians defending themselves from Left Wing bigots. It a about the Liberal double standard that forced a pizza place to shut down because they answered a xompltely hypothetical question about a law progessives have completely mis interpreted.

If you hate all religions equally, where is your equal smart assery and comments against this Muslim bakery? All you have done is prove that you don't hate all religions equally and are a hypocrite just like the rest of the left.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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It would be rude, disrespectful and wrong to demand that a Muslim bakery decorate a cake with a picture of the prophet.

It would be rude, disrespectful and wrong to demand that a gay bakery decorate a cake with something from Westboro.

It would be rude, disrespectful and wrong to demand that a Christian bakery decorate a cake with issues promoting gay marriage.

Though with the last one, I feel conflicted because, as a Christian, I have no issue with that.

But everyone is different and deserves respect.

No-one "requires" respect, but everyone deserves it.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
I have trouble getting upset over a blatant set up.

The other incident was not a setup at all, this blatantly was such a thing. I think the discrimination is wrong, but as this one is not legitimate I have no emotional attachment to it at all.

It's not because they're Muslim and not Christian, but because it was specifically done to make a point. Which in turn dilutes the ability to make that point.



I disagree, I think all these stories are completely made up. Why do the gay couples want the specific bakeries that discriminated against them making their cake when they could just go across the street? Every single case we have heard could have been solved without making a national debate about it. After the first case, the blood was in the water and the Militant progressive sharks started coming. They purposefully would not even go to a Muslim bakery who they know would deny them service because that is not the goal of the progressive. These people purposefully are seeking out Christian bakeries to make an example out of them for doing nothing more than bekieveing what they want to believe.



posted on Apr, 2 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Enochstask
a reply to: IAMTAT
What ever happened to the power of that "We reserve the right to refuse service" sign? Did that just go away?


You're right. I haven't seen one of those in years.

Still see plenty of those: "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service" signs.
Is that anti-nudist?


No, it is racist. Poor people can't all afford shoes,
just like they can't afford to go get free ID's
because it costs too much to get to the free ID place.
Shoes and shirts are a luxury for many immigrants and poor people.
So no shoes, no shirt, no service must be racist.


About the cakes,
I do support the Muslim bakeries right not to bake a cake
that is inherently against their religious values, freedom OF
religion and religious values is
/well no longer is/
now was
a basic right in the US.


However, I do see the blatant hypocrisy of the left and the Dems
who ignore it when Muslims won't bake cakes for a gay wedding,
but want to metaphorically behead Christians who won't bake cakes for a gay wedding.


Through all of this anti-Christian rhetoric and threats
against florists, bakers, pizza makers, I have now seen the light!

Democrats, lefties and progressives who spew all this hate
through twitter, the media, etc., hate all Christians and
feel about Christians the way ISIS does.


Sad part is they don't try to hide it and are worse toward Jews,
Biden actually suggested the Jews would be better off
leaving the US, they would be safer he said.

So what am I to conclude
The Democratic Party/leftists/progressives/socialists
have a deeply "kristallnacht" style hatred toward Christians
and Jews;
while giving a pass to and nuclear weapons to Muslims ;
who actually kill homosexuals in the ME,
treat women worse than dogs in the ME,
but hate and revile Christians who won't bake cakes.


God help us all when the liberals turned into
totalitarian freakazoids,
intent on freedom for what they think,
and repression for those
who think differently than they do.



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