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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: undo


I've read those same studies actually. It has to do with the stress levels during development do to population increase. That is where some people get the theory about how nature has a kind of natural way of balancing population control.

There was another study that I read that was even more complex but showed some relationship to how the more fertile the mother was and the amount of children she had also had some effect too. That is a bad explanation of it though but it was something like that.




posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

no, of course not. jesus was first, then the first christians, then constantine, then catholics, then the printing press, then protestants.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: undo
here's a quote from an article about it


In a 1962 edition of Scientific American, the ecologist John B Calhoun presented the results of a macabre series of experiments conducted at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH).1 He had placed several rats in a laboratory in a converted barn where – protected from disease and predation and supplied with food, water and bedding – they bred rapidly. The one thing they were lacking was space, a fact that became increasingly problematic as what he liked to describe as his “rat city” and “rodent utopia” teemed with animals. Unwanted social contact occurred with increasing frequency, leading to increased stress and aggression. Following the work of the physiologist, Hans Selye, it seemed that the adrenal system offered the standard binary solution: fight or flight.2 But in the sealed enclosure, flight was impossible. Violence quickly spiralled out of control. Cannibalism and infanticide followed. Males became hypersexual, pansexual and, an increasing proportion, homosexual. Calhoun called this vortex “a behavioural sink”. Their numbers fell into terminal decline and the population tailed off to extinction.


www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


That's pretty old.

But, I'll check it out.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

it might explain why the populated areas of ancient greece had pederasty, whereas the outlying areas not so much.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Well If you want to believe in that load of lies go ahead but no Christian will ever believe that load of malarkey. I laugh and cry that someone is that ignorant to think the Catholic church invented Christianity lol.


Christianity emerged in the Levant (now Israel) in the mid-1st century AD. Christianity spread initially from Jerusalem throughout the Near East, into places such as Syria, Assyria, Mesopotamia, Phoenicia, Asia Minor, Jordan and Egypt. In the 4th century it was successively adopted as the state religion by Armenia in 301, Georgia in 319,[1][2] the Aksumite Empire in 325,[3][4] and the Roman Empire in 380.


en.wikipedia.org...

Long before Catholics kids!


John is described as having the unique practice of baptism for the forgiveness of sins.[14] Most scholars agree that John baptized Jesus.[15][16] Scholars generally believe Jesus was a follower or disciple of John[17][18][19] and several New Testament accounts report that some of Jesus' early followers had previously been followers of John.[20] John the Baptist is also mentioned by Jewish historian Josephus.[21]


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The Roman Catholic Church within it's own dogma and doctrines says it is the oldest Christian church but this is not accurate. Historically the early believers were called Messianics (Christians) and this first happened in Antioch (Acts 11:26). At that time they had nothing to do with Rome. You will find no reference to a Roman Catholic Church in scriptures. Read more: www.city-data.com...



The first congregational leader in Jerusalem of the Messianics was the brother of Jesus/Yeshua who is known as James. Read more: www.city-data.com...


www.city-data.com...



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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This comment - - - has nothing to do with being born with a specific orientation.



One group of males isolated themselves from the community around them and became exclusively homosexual.


A homosexual act does not make one a homosexual.

This is archaic thinking - - - that homosexuality is a choice.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
I also wonder if the Christian Defense Brigade we see in every thread will come in here and defend the "right of these Muslim bakeries to deny service to anyone."

I hate every religion equally and I don't think that any religion should be exempt from the same scrutiny that Christians receive.


The Muslims have the same rights as anyone else and should not be forced to serve people they don't want to serve.

Forced labor is slavery.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

no, of course not. jesus was first, then the first christians, then constantine, then catholics, then the printing press, then protestants.


John the Baptist taught Jesus!!!!! That is the foundation of Christianity. He guided young Jesus to show him the ways before God intervened.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

We are going way off the topic.

Are you saying that those Christians back then called themselves Baptists?

No doubt there were early Christians before Constantine. There were several types of Christians before him. There were Gnostics and others.

Maybe you need to study up a bit on history? We are going way off topic.

BTW you do realize that the Catholics do baptize?
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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: Annee

the point is, nature, environment, effects dna. if gays are born gay, and there's a significant uptick in the amount of gays in the population, it could likely be for the same reasons. it's not an aberration but a natural response as a population control mechanism, built in to everything with dna that procreates via gametes
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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: muse7


And with videos like these it's Christians that still come off as the most hypocritical LOL


Pointing out a double-standard isn't hypocritical.

I don't think you know what that word means.
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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: mOjOm

it might explain why the populated areas of ancient greece had pederasty, whereas the outlying areas not so much.


I'm not clear exactly what you mean by pederasty but attraction from Adult to non-Adult is not the same as homosexuality just because they are of the same sex.

Attraction to an undeveloped child is a different pathology all together. It doesn't matter if it's of the same sex or not. Homosexuality is attraction to the same sex, but it's an attraction that has nothing to do with liking liking children.

Now, if you're talking about adults being attracted to younger same sex partners but who are actually developed as adults that is different. For example someone who's 40 let's say for example and who is attracted to a developed 17 year old is normal although it may be illegal. But that same 40 y/o attracted to an undeveloped 12 or 13 year old is completely different regardless of if it's same sex or not. The pathology of the brain is not the same.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

no, of course not. jesus was first, then the first christians, then constantine, then catholics, then the printing press, then protestants.


John the Baptist taught Jesus!!!!! That is the foundation of Christianity. He guided young Jesus to show him the ways before God intervened.
Off topic, but...John the Baptist (cousin of Jesus) was only 6 months older than Jesus.
John and Jesus were separated during their youth and reunited when they were around 30.
Upon meeting, it was John who baptized Jesus. Jesus learned in the synagogues as a young man. John didn't teach him.

As for John...he was the figurehead behind many of the early Gnostic sects...a proto-Christianity.
In 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicaea, were chosen the four basic gospels from all the existing gospels which were quite numerous at the time.
Most of the Gnostic teachings still in circulation (Gospel of Thomas, Mary, etc.) were outlawed and the foundation for the for the Catholic was established.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

it was only between males. like there was no female pederasty. the ancient greeks apparently thought the male physique was the most sublime, and their philosophers wrote many poems on the subject. their ladies were just for creating more males. female children were killed at birth



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: undo

Well they clearly had multiple issues then. But it was still about developed males though right??? They were just young like 15, 16, 17 or something???



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Annee

the point is, nature, environment, effects dna. if gays are born gay, and there's a significant uptick in the amount of gays in the population, it could likely be for the same reasons. it's not an aberration but a natural response as a population control mechanism, built in to everything with dna that procreates via gametes


Possibly.

But, this was 1962. There was different thinking back then about Homosexuality.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

they had a sort of master and apprentice relationship, between a boy and an adult man. by the time they were 18, they had to part ways, and the adult man, if he wanted to, would get a new apprentice. he taught the apprentice everything he needed to know to be an adult, including sex, social order, higher learning like philosophy, writing, math, etc. i theorized that's how the whole issue of choirboys and catholic priests issue started, and likely had been going on since the days of the pre-constantine rome, inherited from the grecian empire, since they seemed to have shared everything else except their views on the importance of family life. the romans were big on the family unit, the greeks, not so much.
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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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LOL I love how this is going off on a tangent.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: undo

Thanks for an interesting thread.

If I could have gone to college (odd health issue) I would have studied Social Anthropologie.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 11:19 PM
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p.s. the statistics on male to female population in ancient greece was like 2 females to every 100 or so males. female infanticide was rampant.



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