a reply to: The angel of light
The ambiguity of Vatican for 1. the exact text of the message, 2. the detailed requirement of consecration (private revelation received later by
Lucia, not necessarily "approved" together with the apparitions), 3. the multiple "consecrations" by popes that are never definitive
according to 2,
...leaves the door widely open for controversy among the devote Catholics, but also among independent researches (such as Tom Horn).
It is virtually impossible to have more clear picture, because the more one researches the topic, the more one reaches logical inconsistencies and
controversies of wordings of popes, cardinals and others. They all claim "Lucia said so", or even "Our Lady said so", while claiming sometimes
I already wrote in separate thread the controversies about the published 2nd secret, especially its timing that coincides perfectly with WW2 -
That leads me to think that either the entire story or significant part of it is fabricated, with the intention to put the Vatican in position that
otherwise it wouldn't have in regard to the policy making in 20th -21st century. Other reasons may exist.
The extraterrestrial factor is the ONLY ONE not discussed in public until the last few years. It is the only possible candidate for content of a
secret that is still secret. It opens unimaginable perspectives for new look at history, scripture and its interpretation. "What did Jesus say" when
He speaks of things like "world", "Universe" or "angels", "demons", "kingdom of heaven" (or sky, space - same words at that time).
The Catholic Church does not want to open that door, or if it does, it doesn't show in public rather allows leaks. Such as the leaked diary of John 23
that is full of his own personal encounters with ET.
The 21st century humanity cannot escape those questions, be they opened for discussion by today's Vatican, today's states, or by public appearance of
2012 came and went with all Nay-sayers triumphing that "nothing happened again, as we said so". Compared to 5000 years history with events like the
Flood, such position is laughable and pity. 25 y after the fall of Berlin wall, or even ~100y after Fatima are nothing compared to history. And yet,
they are too long for the duration of the Last generation, according to the words of Jesus found in the canonical gospels. If the Last Generation
(seeing Israel restored) dies off, the future generations will have further proof of unreliable canonical gospel texts, among other things. The
doctrine will fall in the next decades, and the quest for truth of Gospel, including but not only the known banned books, will be too big to be held
intact by hierarchy. History Channel's Ancient Aliens already did a thorough reread of the Old Testament and showed, although imperfectly, many new
aspects of those same basic texts.
edit on 11-4-2015 by 2012newstart because: (no reason given)