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originally posted by: DAZ21
I can see if things play out in a certain way, the English will be rioting on the streets.
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: crazyewok
Glad to hear it, she sounds a very good MP and one of the perfectly acceptable tories, if not even on the left of most of Labour who are racing to be Dave or are pure 'yes men' who no no life outside politics.
At the risk of sounding patronising or sacarstic (I honestly don't mean to) you have exactly the right attitude to voting and democracy, something the country is sorely lacking. I imagine most of the population won't even now who is their MP, let alone their voting records so it's great stuff to hear. While I disagree with the party you're voting for, you're clearly making the correct, informed choice -which few sadly bother to research outside places like here that are politically active so full credit to you and hope she wins her constituency.
But it is depressing because the debate is focused on such minute differences of policy.
The campaign consists of insults thrown with passionate force across the distance of a pinhead.
Aware of voters' real concerns and attitudes (especially resentment at immigration and hatred of politicians), they nevertheless blandly pretend that theirs is the national conversation.
They imagine that what they talk about on The Daily Politics is what people talk about with their families and friends.
We have another form of corruption - not merely that some parliamentarians are blatantly in the pockets of corporate lobbyists, but the condition that makes this possible.
We have lost any compelling moral narrative in our national life, any sense of purpose about what political activity is for.
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: teapot
originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: teapot
Sorry, the only answer I can dignify you with is being a 'slave' earning £250,000 a week is an interesting concept. You are talking about some very specific examples, not the one I plucked out as an example.
Historically, the high wages culture is because of the slavery element.
If you want to use Russel Brand (I plucked him as an example), then his latest publication is neither here nor there, it just goes to show he doesn't need the money (ETA) from this particular publication.
He (or any other popular commentator) could have chosen to do something more selfish with the money! Attempting to use these type figures to prove a point about how it was not only the banking industry working with sitting politicians to rip us all off was a diversion that I somehow could not ignore!
Gordon brown didn't introduce Gift Aid though, you might want to check. Last time I looked it was John Major (ETA it was John Major, Brown made a change, but certainly didn't introduce it).
I stand corrected, thank you for the info! Of course it was the Tories that devised this further intrusion into peoples' finances! I had wondered why it was that under the 'austerity' regime they have imposed upon the poorest in society, no savings have been made by abolishing Gift Aid. Not that I know exactly how it works or if it can be used to further reduce taxes paid by certain individuals.
What on Earth are you on about? You were all for gift aid but now you see the Tories devised it you are against it??? (ETA) and it hasn't been abolished, I gave last month and pledged gift aid, the same as I do when I donate clothes/books just like I did 20 years ago. Sheesh, you might want to keep digging to find something that actually has merit.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Were coming to get ye...