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# Guide to the FLAT EARTH

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posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 05:44 AM

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

To people who think further then what they are being presented and enjoyed some basic education in math and physics it is a great laugh and easily debunked point for point.

This poster has no idea folks .... mathematics and physics are just random anomalies easily explained by the Mandela affect...anyhow carry on...

Let me guess, you graduated at ACME right?

Koyote was my study partner

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 06:53 AM

That at least explains part of it.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 11:53 AM

originally posted by: NNN87

originally posted by: ignorant_ape

what is the distance :

a london ? new york ??

b sao paulo > johannasburg ???

as for the accyracy of that map - it fails spectacularly with the distance from perth australia to sydeney australia

and a laundry list of others

You are failing to understand something repeatedly, so i am going to spend time typing it once more.

An accurate map for distance does not exist for ANY model, those things are irrelevant, there is no accurate way of measuring it, flight times differ by an hour sometimes more for most flights, how many bloody times do i have to give you the same answer? Its irrelevant!!

You are literally drawing imaginary lines then saying, there see, how does that work? As i said, i can also draw lines all day, do you have any personal experience on those flights, and do you have personal experience in knowing exactly where the plane was or its exact route on the way to its destination?

What are you doing? Its irrelevant, there, i typed it in one more time.

I have real world experience of navigating across oceans in both the southern and Northern hemispheres. You ignore what you are told. There is zero point in continuing this.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 11:54 AM

But you don't have to make it so complicated, you are asking things that are beyond any one of us here.

Grab binoculars, go to the beach, because water keeps true level, so the horizon your seeing should be due to curvature. Bring your binoculars up to your face, and look through them, come back and tell me why am i seeing water and a horizon go further beyond the curvature? When you have the answer for me for a simple observation, we can have a conversation.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 12:00 PM

Like what? The only thing im getting here is, is that you all, are ignoring a very simple observation, for some odd reason beyond my understanding of the human mind, none of you can tell me why i am seeing a horizon, or any object for that matter beyond my own perspective limits?? Why are you all ignoring that? It's so simple, no maps, or complicated equations built upon equations, no huge sums of wealth are needed, just a couple of hours and a nice clear day, how hard can that be.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:54 PM

you are no fun at all....I take it then you think my post was a serious one.....if so that explains a lot

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 08:12 PM

if the earth is flat, why are you seeing a definite horizon at all? should it not just slowly fuzz out into "somethingness"

take another look through your binoculars out to see. don't look at am object, look at the horizon itself. why does the sea just "end" only a few miles away? what is behind that? where do all the sailing ships go when they go past that line? why cant you even see the big ones?

WHY CANT I SEE FRANCE? its not super far in a straight line from me, especially on a clear day
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Where do the planes go? watch one long enough and it dips below that horizon line. does it just fall out into space? have you been on a plane for a long flight? did you end up in space? were you in flight for longer than you can watch a plane horizon to horizon on the ground and yet travelled a great distance?
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posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 09:06 PM

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

you are no fun at all....I take it then you think my post was a serious one.....if so that explains a lot

i did actually!

I am actually very glad to learn that it wasn't

The thing is your post was 100% inline with flat earthers that i had discussions with. Even when i re-read your post now i cannot distinguish it from one of theirs if i ignore the fact that you came out and told me it was supposed to be a joke. That shows how ridiculous these people in fact are tbh.

Cheers man

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 09:09 PM

originally posted by: NNN87

But you don't have to make it so complicated, you are asking things that are beyond any one of us here.

Grab binoculars, go to the beach, because water keeps true level, so the horizon your seeing should be due to curvature. Bring your binoculars up to your face, and look through them, come back and tell me why am i seeing water and a horizon go further beyond the curvature? When you have the answer for me for a simple observation, we can have a conversation.

It is that complicated. If the earth was flat all those things that i mentioned need to be faked and kept secret It is simply the implication of your claim that the earth is flat and in some sort of dome and that cannot be ignored and so that requires explanation for each and every one of them.

why am i seeing water and a horizon go further beyond the curvature?

You don't.

You have been watching to many flat earth YT video's.

So tell me, how is the entire world faking our satellite system?

How are they keeping it a secret that the north pole is actually a huge wall of ice around us and how do you explain that those are somehow protected by navy vessels across such a humongous diameter??

How do all countries in the world and their space programs and all people in the world with telescopes hide everything from the rest

and how did they manage to do all of that for so long?

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posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 09:20 PM

originally posted by: MasterAtArms
Where do the planes go? watch one long enough and it dips below that horizon line. does it just fall out into space? have you been on a plane for a long flight? did you end up in space? were you in flight for longer than you can watch a plane horizon to horizon on the ground and yet travelled a great distance?

According to flat earthers the ice wall (northpole) surrounding us is guarded by navy ships and so that explains why we never reach and see the edge.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:00 PM

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: MasterAtArms
Where do the planes go? watch one long enough and it dips below that horizon line. does it just fall out into space? have you been on a plane for a long flight? did you end up in space? were you in flight for longer than you can watch a plane horizon to horizon on the ground and yet travelled a great distance?

According to flat earthers the ice wall (northpole) surrounding us is guarded by navy ships and so that explains why we never reach and see the edge.

I never said anything about a North Pole ice wall that surrounds us? What? If anything, maybe you should read back on the post, i don't like this,your coming here saying wrong things first of all, then yoy insult, and add to that we just discussed all those things in this thread, go back to the beginning if you have to.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:06 PM

So where is the north pole according to you?

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:12 PM

Why would the entire world be faking it? Why do you think it would be expensive? Why are you asking me about things i can't possibly answer? Im not Bruce Wayne, there are laws and boundaries, how do you explain area 51? How is that possible to keep hush hush and its in your backyard?

You are expecting me to be good at geography, astronomy, economics, science, religion and to mention the plethora of mathematical equations, plus i have to be a genius.

All i can tell you is, you have a flat observable surface like water, there is a curvature calculation which is based on ancient observations, which will tell you what you should be seeing, what im getting at, is that one can simply use binoculars to see beyond the calculated ''horizon''.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:13 PM
can a someone prove there's a firmament
by bouncing something off it ?

you wouldn't have to trek to the ends of the earth

someone at least tried something similar ?

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:18 PM

originally posted by: kibric
can a someone prove there's a firmament
by bouncing something off it ?

you wouldn't have to trek to the ends of the earth

someone at least tried something similar ?

Who is to say that there is even a firmament, i don't understand this obsession with ''boundaries'' or limits.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:23 PM

...Its all good, i thought mentioning the mandella affect should have been enough to give it away...

I have never had a discussion with a flat earther mainly because the earth isn't flat so the only way for the conversation to go is around in circles

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:30 PM

i guess if your being faithful to the original bible quote

a laser or something...

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:47 PM

originally posted by: NNN87

Why would the entire world be faking it? Why do you think it would be expensive? Why are you asking me about things i can't possibly answer? Im not Bruce Wayne, there are laws and boundaries,

Who is to say that there is even a firmament, i don't understand this obsession with ''boundaries'' or limits.

Why would the entire world be faking it? Why do you think it would be expensive?

So you are defending the one thing you are trying your best not to bring forth here. YOu see what i see here. something akin to a scientologist trying to argue it in a forum while trying to avoid then entire "lord Xenu" thing.

Could you post a map of your flat earth? I know you guys have those.

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:48 PM

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

...Its all good, i thought mentioning the mandella affect should have been enough to give it away...

I have never had a discussion with a flat earther mainly because the earth isn't flat so the only way for the conversation to go is around in circles

Cool ^^

Try looking at their youtube videos and check the comments. I promise you it wont take long for you to see why i took what you said serious

posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 11:05 PM

Legal boundaries, not as in the firmament, i never even mentioned a dome or religious texts, where are you getting this from?

If you read the thread you will have your answers, don't just come at me telling me i said things i have never even thought about, what god damn firmament???

Don't come at me accusing me of not answering questions when i already have based on my legal and monetary boundaries.

I don't watch flat earth videos, there is no such map, there is a reference that some use to as to how the layout might work, and its called the equidistant projection, that is all it is, not a map of a flat earth.

Brimley Beach, Pickering Ontario.

At the height of 25 feet, looking across lake Ontario, on a clear day, one can see the Somerset smoke stack roughly 50 miles away, across the lake.

At those altitudes and visible target distance the smoke stack which towers at 600ft should be obscured by roughly 1200ft of curvature.

dizzib.github.io...

Technically 600ft taking into account the smoke stacks max high minus the 1200ft or so of curvature.

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