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originally posted by: dollukka
Ask and you will be given" this is the most misused verse from the Bible
Matthew 17:20
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
Matthew 6:26
Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
John 14:12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: backcase
Church is not a material thing, what he said in Luke 12:15
Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions." same should also be the truth considering church. In Bible there is no description of existence of church as a material institution its not about gathering riches, selling alms or profiting from it.
Church as i see it is about people who have faith, not about the church as an institution. Church as a building should be considered as a tool which makes approaching to God easier.
There is nothing in the Bible, which says that the Eucharist needs a church.
originally posted by: backcase
You can't have one without the other. The church is good although there are people in it that aim to corrupt it and give it a bad name.
It is made up of a good congregation of believers and produces saints out of simple people.
Your perception of the Church is not correct, you suspect it and seek all the bad in it.
Originally posted by dollukak
Jesus said " Ask and you will be given" this is the most misused verse from the Bible. Jesus never talked about seeking for material things, only material thing he talked about was a bread in "father of ours" prayer " Give us this day our daily bread" He also said that" I am the bread of life, whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst", when you see what he means, you probably also see that our daily bread is not about our physical needs, instead it´s about our needs in spirit.
"Ask and you shall be given" verse of Jesus is not about material needs either, it is also about our spiritual needs. With this verse misused, we see the ugly side of Christianity.
John 14:13
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.