BREAKING: Co-Pilot intentional crashed plane. Co Pilot Named

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Hellas
According to german news the Police allegedly found a suicide note in his House. No confirmation yet

no link?

Sorry no I was watching the news

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

aren't certain jets remote controllable [as an anti-hijacking system]?

No transport category airplanes are remote controllable.

keep believing that Fly-by-wire and remote hijack recovery does not exist or that it ain't hackable

Wonder if this is the same person;

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a reply to: AdamuBureido

Considering that there's no outside access that would allow for it without modification, OK I will.

originally posted by: SirKonstantin
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

...Or if his young age of 28 makes him susceptible to terrorist brainwashing..... I do wonder how the media will turn this around?

Even CNN is showing the last moments of Jesus this weekend...even with all the antisemitism happening over seas... Big Brother want's to drive home the point...

And the Point is...

...Trust America and No One Else outside of 'Murica....

APPARENTLY I HAVE TO ADD THIS TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE WHY I MAKE THIS CONSPIRACY CONNECTION.....

I believe it has everything to do with this Thread. As a conspiracy theorist, i have to explore and present all possible means.

All the planes being blown outta the sky or deliberately crashed is going to be connected and fulled by the media to bash outside countries...Pretty much global out-casting...by TPTB.

Lubitz...German, Jewish, It all equals terrorist in the medias eyes, and that is the connecting lie. Everything shown to us, they way the media portrays it, is as the TPTB want it to be. Only years later will be "truly" find out...or the "documents or just discovered "extra" black box has been found to reveal new stuff. Come on, we are recently "releasing" new documents to the wars over seas...now...after many years of no one really caring...

I hope you can make the connections.

You've said some cockamamie crap before, but this takes the damn cake. Media rigging plane crashes to make countries look bad to Americans? That's a theory from the last vestiges of a floundering CT mind that has nothing attention-grabbing left to offer.

Try harder next time, Con, a week from now & most Americans will move back to Game of Thrones chatter & forget this plane & it's occupants ever existed.

originally posted by: whatnext21
If you belong to Facebook, look up his name while you still can...that's all

I don't know what to think about that fb page. It was just opened.
Probably fake imo

originally posted by: AdamuBureido

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

aren't certain jets remote controllable [as an anti-hijacking system]?

No transport category airplanes are remote controllable.

keep believing that Fly-by-wire and remote hijack recovery does not exist or that it ain't hackable

Considering the fact that the resident ATS experts have stated numerous times that it isn't possible... I'll keep believing them over random conspiracy theorists.

a reply to: Bigburgh

Absolutely, many hide their depression well and other mental health problems too. I can't believe pilots do not have psychological tests as well as physical tests every year.... but then again, nurses also don't and we could easily take peoples lives (if we wanted to).

A good friend of the 28-year-old told our newspaper: "He's a freak, he wanted to become a pilot, but he is mentally unstable, therefore, also had his education interrupted for a few months.

" Next, the informant reported: "L. is a real Fanat, for him there was only one target to fly the dream he had been in elementary school.." Themselves have shown that even in his apartment. "He had his whole room with wallpapered plane pictures throughout the Lufthansa emblem pictures of old machinery, new, from the largest machines could be seen hanging on the wall and were everywhere aviators. utensils on display, even over his bed -. I was already surprised " The informant also mentioned a "dropout" of his acquaintances. "That's why he interrupted his education. But he did his exam." A similar break in training also confirmed Carsten Spohr, CEO of Lufthansa, at a press conference. Six years ago, Andreas L. therefore has interrupted his training for several months. Among the reasons Spohr declined to comment; referred to the medical confidentiality. After the interruption, the suitability of the man by any standards was checked, Spohr said. "He was 100 percent fit to fly without any abnormal.."

Google translation form Passauer Neue Presse

originally posted by: AdamuBureido

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

aren't certain jets remote controllable [as an anti-hijacking system]?

No transport category airplanes are remote controllable.

keep believing that Fly-by-wire and remote hijack recovery does not exist or that it ain't hackable

From what I understand, Fly-by-wire is a closed shell, meaning nobody without direct access to it's components can hack it.

To give you an analogy, it would be like trying to hack a computer that's not on the internet or on a network. Just a single lone computer all by itself. You can't hack it without actually accessing the physical computer. Same deal here with fly-by-wire.

a reply to: Agartha

True.. Nurses are known to become abusers ( some not all ) due to being over stress. Luckily i never thought of killing off a PT. Or steal 100mg of Mepreridine. But the cases are there.
well I'm bowing out of the thread. Going to have to give into the long wait and see approach.

isn't Lubitz a Jewish name?

originally posted by: AdamuBureido

originally posted by: SirKonstantin
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

...Or if his young age of 28 makes him susceptible to terrorist brainwashing..... I do wonder how the media will turn this around?

Even CNN is showing the last moments of Jesus this weekend...even with all the antisemitism happening over seas... Big Brother want's to drive home the point...

And the Point is...

...Trust America and No One Else outside of 'Murica....

APPARENTLY I HAVE TO ADD THIS TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE WHY I MAKE THIS CONSPIRACY CONNECTION.....

I believe it has everything to do with this Thread. As a conspiracy theorist, i have to explore and present all possible means.

All the planes being blown outta the sky or deliberately crashed is going to be connected and fulled by the media to bash outside countries...Pretty much global out-casting...by TPTB.

Lubitz...German, Jewish, It all equals terrorist in the medias eyes, and that is the connecting lie. Everything shown to us, they way the media portrays it, is as the TPTB want it to be. Only years later will be "truly" find out...or the "documents or just discovered "extra" black box has been found to reveal new stuff. Come on, we are recently "releasing" new documents to the wars over seas...now...after many years of no one really caring...

I hope you can make the connections.

aren't certain jets remote controllable [as an anti-hijacking system]?
and basically we have to simply take somebody's word don't know where the OP is getting that there is evidence

and what of the fighter planes escorting it that zoomed off immediately it crashed instead of the SOP of assessing the situation and reporting back to the base what the situation was. They did not do this, BIG QUESTION: WHY NOT?

later redacted to:

sourced from 82.221.129.208...

the real question is:
who was on that plane?

I love it!!!! Your right!!! Who was on that plan, and soo important to kill that it would cost the lives of others?
Also...the plane was cleared for inspection the day before it took off....Terrorist was the Inside Man who gave the Approval to fly this plane....the plot thickens....

Respects,

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: AdamuBureido

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

aren't certain jets remote controllable [as an anti-hijacking system]?

No transport category airplanes are remote controllable.

keep believing that Fly-by-wire and remote hijack recovery does not exist or that it ain't hackable

Considering the fact that the resident ATS experts have stated numerous times that it isn't possible... I'll keep believing them over random conspiracy theorists.

The same expert that less than 12 hours ago was basically belittling anyone who thought this might be an intentional act?

Experts may have access to certain facts but they can and do draw incorrect conclusions based on their bias. And so called experts tend to be very, very biased against anything that may not seem mainstream. They can ignore logic as much as any so called conspiracy theorist.

20 mins ago - Air Canada will now require two crew in the cockpit at all times in order ... "We are implementing without delay a policy change to ensure that all flights ... Airlines in Europe are not required to have two people in the cockpit at all times Peter Fitzpatrick said in a statement.
Fitzpatrick said the airline is closely monitoring the investigation of the crash and will make further policy changes as warranted.

source
www.thestar.com...

You've said some cockamamie crap before, but this takes the damn cake. Media rigging plane crashes to make countries look bad to Americans? That's a theory from the last vestiges of a floundering CT mind that has nothing attention-grabbing left to offer.

The media doesn't rig the plane, but they help exploit it, and make up speculations before actual truth. Hence why i said the media is controlling our tunnel vision.

Yeah, i was off my medz on this one. I just got frustrated. [Side Note: I am glad i have a follower]

Try harder next time, Con, a week from now & most Americans will move back to Game of Thrones chatter & forget this plane & it's occupants ever existed.

...And isn't that the sad truth. We care more about Winter Coming than people actually dead.


I can certainly offer more...



And the more i read other post on this Thread, with people putting up more links, quotes, the more comfortable i feel with my wild allegations.

originally posted by: Daughter2

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: AdamuBureido

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

aren't certain jets remote controllable [as an anti-hijacking system]?

No transport category airplanes are remote controllable.

keep believing that Fly-by-wire and remote hijack recovery does not exist or that it ain't hackable

Considering the fact that the resident ATS experts have stated numerous times that it isn't possible... I'll keep believing them over random conspiracy theorists.

The same expert that less than 12 hours ago was basically belittling anyone who thought this might be an intentional act?

I didn't see belittling. I saw knowledgeable people waiting for the facts to come in before jumping to ignorant conclusions and encouraging others to do the same.

Assumptions were being tossed around willy-nilly when no one had any facts.

originally posted by: grandmakdw
In reading about the co-pilot, suicide and mental illness
was NOT what came to mind.

It sounded more like the repeating of a mantra "must destroy the plane",
a sort of trigger, put in by hypnosis,
a deep and very professionally done, drug induced hypnosis,
one that the co-pilot himself would be unaware of
on a conscious level.
It did not sound at all like suicidal intention to me.


This would explain the deep regular breathing.

It also occurred after the pilot went over the upcoming
landing procedures with the co-pilot
which could have triggered
a deep hypnotic trigger event.

what?
do you just make stuff up as you go along?

a reply to: AdamuBureido
I think you posted the second picture twice.

Assumptions were being tossed around willy-nilly when no one had any facts.


And That is the Point I'm trying to Make, Krazy assumptions...one of many examples is terrorism...and when you think of terrorism, you think of the jews/iraq/behendings/etc. and you start to think negative about said individuals/culture/acts.
If the media never put this on air. we would never even know what is going on. we wouldn't care.