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BREAKING: Co-Pilot intentional crashed plane. Co Pilot Named

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posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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Occam's Razor anyone?... These pilots sleep all the time during any given flight.... I'm asking, is it simply possible that he nodded off and leaned against controls? If I've been working too long and fall asleep, no knocking is going to help. Additionally, since when has the media not spun a story?




posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
I have a question, how do we know who was really flying the plane?


They said they have a picture of the Pilot standing outside of the door trying to get back in. (there apparently is some sort of face recognition software)



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Naabaahii
Occam's Razor anyone?... These pilots sleep all the time during any given flight.... I'm asking, is it simply possible that he nodded off and leaned against controls? If I've been working too long and fall asleep, no knocking is going to help. Additionally, since when has the media not spun a story?


Read the Thread. He turned a specific dial to get to the altitude. This is an airplane not a bobby car



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Naabaahii
Occam's Razor anyone?... These pilots sleep all the time during any given flight.... I'm asking, is it simply possible that he nodded off and leaned against controls? If I've been working too long and fall asleep, no knocking is going to help. Additionally, since when has the media not spun a story?


I'm not sure why people want to deny the truth of this tragedy.

A suicidal pilot murdered a plane-full of people. It's that simple.

I don't know why this thread is full of folks who are trying so hard to look for another answer when the facts are staring them in the face. As soon as the information about the cockpit door locks came out, I figured this was a murder/suicide.
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posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777


One would only guess that after listening to the audio tapes. They were able to determine that the captain addressed that he was leaving for a moment. Or perhaps which side of the cockpit was in use at the time.

But that is a good question.



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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Wow.. thanks for mentioning your 2 points. Camera and setting the dial. Star!


Edit: a reply to Hellas
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posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
I have a question, how do we know who was really flying the plane?


They said they have a picture of the Pilot standing outside of the door trying to get back in. (there apparently is some sort of face recognition software)


oh wow



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: Answer

I guess because it is so tragic I want to know for sure.

And the thought of the passengers knowing what was about to happen and what they must have been going through for eight long minutes must just be unbearable for their families.

In part anyway.

Then I hate to think someone would do this on purpose.



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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In reading about the co-pilot, suicide and mental illness
was NOT what came to mind.

It sounded more like the repeating of a mantra "must destroy the plane",
a sort of trigger, put in by hypnosis,
a deep and very professionally done, drug induced hypnosis,
one that the co-pilot himself would be unaware of
on a conscious level.
It did not sound at all like suicidal intention to me.


This would explain the deep regular breathing.

It also occurred after the pilot went over the upcoming
landing procedures with the co-pilot
which could have triggered
a deep hypnotic trigger event.


edit on 11Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:34:19 -0500am32603amk264 by grandmakdw because: addition



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Answer

I'm not sure why people want to deny the truth of this tragedy.

A suicidal pilot murdered a plane-full of people. It's that simple.

I don't know why this thread is full of folks who are trying so hard to look for another answer when the facts are staring them in the face. As soon as the information about the cockpit door locks came out, I figured this was a murder/suicide.


Because it is human nature to analyze situations and people and since we all have different cultural backgrounds, we automatically see things differently. Nothing wrong with not trying to crucify the c0-pilot, as thousands are already doing so on FB.

Also, there could have been a fault with the cockpit door. That one action by itself doesn't imply the co-pilot did it all on purpose. But the fact that the autopilot was switched off and the plane set to descend, then I have to agree with you: this was mass murder.



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: Naabaahii
Occam's Razor anyone?... These pilots sleep all the time during any given flight.... I'm asking, is it simply possible that he nodded off and leaned against controls? If I've been working too long and fall asleep, no knocking is going to help. Additionally, since when has the media not spun a story?


Read the Thread. He turned a specific dial to get to the altitude. This is an airplane not a bobby car


Because I believe everything the media tells me....



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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I agree 100%. If the man wanted to off himself..he could have done it at his own home so only his parents and friends be the ones that suffer from it. If in fact he committed suicide/homicide. A real POS.a reply to: Rocker2013



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio
highlight of my info:


...It was the co-pilot's "intention to destroy this plane," Robin said.
He said the pilot, who has not been identified, left the cockpit, presumably to go to the lavatory, and then was unable to regain access. In the meantime, co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, a 28-year-old German, manually and "intentionally" set the plane on the descent that drove it into the mountain
He said Lubitz had never been flagged as a terrorist and would not give details on his religion or ethnic background. He said German authorities were taking charge of the investigation into Lubitz

In the German town of Montabaur, acquaintances told The Associated Press that Lubitz showed no signs of depression when they saw him last fall as he renewed his glider pilot's license.
"He was happy he had the job with Germanwings and he was doing well," said a member of the glider club, Peter Ruecker, who watched Lubitz learn to fly. "He gave off a good feeling."
Lubitz had obtained his glider pilot's license as a teenager, and was accepted as a Lufthansa pilot trainee after finishing a tough German college preparatory school, Ruecker said. He described Lubitz as a "rather quiet" but friendly young man.
Lufthansa said the co-pilot joined Germanwings in September 2013, directly after training, and had flown 630 hours.

news.yahoo.com...




radicalized or mental depression/breakdown ??

nothing suggest any affiliation with Jihad

so, a Manchurian Candidate is the last resort... a brain washed person with a programmed mind that needed the Trigger to send Andreas Lubitz into his assigned task


I actually considered this too, i.e. him being triggered or brainwashed.



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
In reading about the co-pilot, suicide and mental illness
was NOT what came to mind.

It sounded more like the repeating of a mantra "must destroy the plane",
a sort of trigger, put in by hypnosis,
a deep and very professionally done, drug induced hypnosis,
one that the co-pilot himself would be unaware of
on a conscious level.
It did not sound at all like suicidal intention to me.


This would explain the deep regular breathing.

It also occurred after the pilot went over the upcoming
landing procedures with the co-pilot
which could have triggered
a deep hypnotic trigger event.



So the question would be if true why?

To distract from some other issue in global affairs?

To assassinate someone on board?



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: Agartha

And that's where the pilots credibility is dwindling for me.
The only hold up at the moment is the character. There is one report stating that his friends saw him last fall showing no signs if depression, as he was renewing his glider license. While twitter seems to suggest the burnout even after 2009..

Thing about the signs of depression... you may not see the signs.



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: grandmakdw
In reading about the co-pilot, suicide and mental illness
was NOT what came to mind.

It sounded more like the repeating of a mantra "must destroy the plane",
a sort of trigger, put in by hypnosis,
a deep and very professionally done, drug induced hypnosis,
one that the co-pilot himself would be unaware of
on a conscious level.
It did not sound at all like suicidal intention to me.


This would explain the deep regular breathing.

It also occurred after the pilot went over the upcoming
landing procedures with the co-pilot
which could have triggered
a deep hypnotic trigger event.



So the question would be if true why?

To distract from some other issue in global affairs?

To assassinate someone on board?


Your guess is as good as mine.

But I think my hypothesis is better than the suicide hypothesis.
"It sounded more like the repeating of a
mantra "must destroy the plane",
a sort of trigger, put in by hypnosis,
a deep and very professionally done,
drug induced hypnosis,
one that the co-pilot himself would be unaware of
on a conscious level. "

You'd have to look at who was onboard
and still if it was someone who knew too much by accident,
would we ever know or be sure?

The actions of the co-pilot during the flight
(before and during the incident)
and the descriptions of him by friends, doesn't add up to suicide.

It does add up to a deep hypnotic trigger
which would keep his breathing regular and normal
while killing 150 people.



edit on 12Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:05:37 -0500pm32603pmk264 by grandmakdw because: addition format



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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According to german news the Police allegedly found a suicide note in his House. No confirmation yet



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
The actions of the co-pilot during the flight
(before and during the incident)
and the descriptions of him by friends, doesn't add up to suicide.

It does add up to a deep hypnotic trigger
which would keep his breathing regular and normal
while killing 150 people.




Ya know, you're right. That's definitely the most plausible scenario... definitely.




posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Hellas
According to german news the Police allegedly found a suicide note in his House. No confirmation yet


no link?



posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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Has the 3rd American been identified?




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