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Historic Medical Marijuana Bill Gains Momentum

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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 09:33 AM

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: Krazysh0t
That's actually a really good point I didn't think of. WV writes a ticket for less than an oz. I assume it will stay that way.

Yea. I'd just keep a wary eye on local reporting on marijuana charges if this goes into effect to see if the sentences have changed much. I don't think they will, but each state is different and I live in Maryland so I can only speak for my state.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:05 AM
As a MM professional I worry about "legalization" bills sponsored by our corporate lawmakers.
Bills that allow ways for big business to start funneling money while police budgets stay bloated to bust those who don't want to buy the corporate approved medicine, Like the Canadian system.

It won't take a genius to be the first weed billionaire; the first farmer to switch his crop from corn to weed or big corporation to lobby enough in a state to open a huge warehouse. Then they lobby to get their product in every convenience store in the country.
I'd rather 50,000 people make $100,000 a year than 5 corps. make 10 billion a year
And we must retain the right to grow our own.
2 plants in your backyard every summer would provide any smoker their yearly supply.

Beware of bills that allow banks to accept "weed money" but do little to protect the person that use the medicine. Decriminalization is the most important thing.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:14 AM
a reply to: HighFive

Why are people so scared of corporations getting control of selling weed? Corporations control selling beer, but that isn't preventing the microbreweries from making their own local brews. Heck, microbreweries are becoming so popular that the major corporations are trying to mimic the style and create their own micro-brew tastes (though I would never drink a Budweiser microbrew). Beer can be tough to make. Marijuana is as easy as throwing a few seeds in your backyard.

I, personally, welcome corporate marijuana companies. That increases Marijuana lobbying power and ensures easy access to all. Prices will drop and distribution will make emergent marijuana bars easier to setup. Not all corporations are evil you know.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:18 AM
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Stephen Harper wouldn't let this pass. However, Justin Trudeau does support legalization and is the runner up right now.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:36 AM
Stop the laws from being put through,do NOT allow any court to define MJ as anything other than a natural plant which cannot be controlled or "owned by proxy" and denied to the people of the planet ,they want the schedule 1 "medical" definition and will "pretend" to be negotiated "down" to it to cut their losses -dont let them do it completely stop them from attatching any legal definition at all and make them REMOVE ALL EXISTING ONES , so big pharma can gain control and eventually buy all the seed Banks so they can GMO the medicinal properties out of ALL available strains as they are now doing to vegetables.

This is a battle which is now HEATED....big pharma has not brought their big guns to bear on the issue yet but they will soon.

MJ is ANTI-PARASITIC when used properly and THIS is what TBTB fear,this knowledge being mainstream and MJ availability being mainstream.

They are intentionally supporting the erronous belief that MJs biggest appeal is the social consumption aspect,they will support this angle because it allows them to enter into a fabricated negotiation during which TPTB represented through the legal system and the people will agree to a reduced legal profile ....which in effect changes nothing in terms of power and control of MJ by is a trick....100% insist on NO LEGAL DEFINITIONS OR CONTROLS....nothing else will do...force them out of the issue NOW while you still can.....dont let them harness and use the momentum generated so far....they are trying to do this right now.

TPTB are deceitfull and must be responded to.

I watched a video which claimed that smoking MJ showed a reduction in the growth of Brain Tumors......PAY ATTENTION NOW.....this is being mis-represented and is psi-ops,if you believe this and then tell you loved one to smoke MJ to cure their brain tumor they will surely die and you will forever believe MJ is NOT remedial in nature.TPTB are INTENTIONALLY putting this type of mis-guided data out there to get ahead of the curve in dis-enfranchising the TRUE MEDICAL GIFT MJ gives us with its anti-parasitic effects when it is used in methods which illuminate its remedial properties. MJ used properly may show itself to be remedial in dealing with all types of tumors....but you do not smoke the MJ to achieve these benefits.

TPTB will use old-time mis-information tactics catalysing from the places they hold the most power in .......lets not allow them to do it this time........lets keep track of WHERE this type of intentional dis-information comes from...the "learning institutes" especially so we can LEARN where TPTB are holed up and massing their influence.When a University or a Laboratory brings forth data which is misinfoming they need to be put on a list.

The "medical MJ" definition is critical to not let them use it as bargaining chip when they negotiate to "allow" you to posess the plant to smoke it.....GIVE NO QUARTER....make it free of administration.....if they bring in laws "supposedly" to protect the rights of medical patients they are only working on building a bigger dynamic template they will in the future use to gain control over the production and thereby the medical potentials of MJ.It is in their best interests to GMO the medical benefits OUT of ALL foods which are by one they will pick off the defenses nture freely gives us to keep us sick.

It is not only MJ they are targeting , they have been targeting many other foods already this very way because we DIDNT KNOW WHY...we werent paying enough attention to the right things.

They will first gain control over the genetic base by buying up as many SEED BANKS as they can,they will LEGLLY PROTECT themselves under multiple layers of legal jargon and billions of dollars they may use to keep themselves ahead of the curve.

This MASSIVE CONSPIRACY must be stopped.

There must be GLOBAL INTERNATIONAL TREATIES created and signed which prohibit the dynamic template TPTB are tying to subvesively build under our noses.

They want to keep MJ as a schedule 1 drug so they may maintain some legal control to faccilitate and enact their devious NOT accept this.....demand MJ be taken OFF THE BOOKS COMPLETELY.Remove their ability to keep MJ within the FRAMEWORK OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM which is the ONLY PLACE THEIR MONEY GIVES THEM AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE MASSES.

As long as natural plants which ALL HUMANS POSSES A BIRTHRIGHT TO are allowed to be defined with attatched legal definitions we risk TPTB intentionally depriving ALL OF HUMANITY of their basic human rights.

There can be NO LAWS which enable the control of evolution or removal of PLANTS FROM OUR one has the right to control or artificially manipulate nature.....these are CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

This isnt only about MJ it is about ALL NATURAL REMEDIAL PLANTS which by proxy define a massive volume of currently produced,marketed and prescribed pharma products as being secondaty in usefullness.

This message has been brought to you courtesy of WCB Canada who via their SOP procedures gifted me with two critical ingredients needed to become a life-long learner....time and poverty.

Remember big Pharma COPIED NATURE to make their drugs....all they did was replicate as closely as they could the ALREADY EXISTING AND FULLY COMPLETE NATURAL REMEDYS.Now they are trying to control or eliminate the natural sources which they KNOW FULL WELL are 100% superior in every way to their "copies".

Do not fight for MJ freedom based on just the social aspects of recreationally consuming the plant ,TPTB have walked you down the garden path to do exactly this take their hook line and sinker....they have paved the way....MJ supporters HAVE NOT MADE THIS CHANGE HAPPEN.....TPTB have intentionally created a dynamic in which they can HARNESS the peoples effort to use for themselves.....many of us SEE this happening.

There is an organised and Global effort under way to gain control over every humans ability and freedom to acess natures remedial plants and minerals......these are direct and un-defendable CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.....forget Big Oil .....if people pass the word and join the engagement then TPTB will be crippled by this new area they have recently thrown EVERYTHING INTO CONTROLLING.....keep plants out of being defined legally in ANY COURTROOM anywhere and you DISEMPOWER TPTB.Let TPTB get a foothold in ANY COURTROOM USING LEGAL POWER and you create a monster.THEY TOOK A MASSIVE RISK and invested 25% of their resources into this play,rarely have TPTB been this vulnerable.

Dagging TPTB OUT of the courtroom is like dragging a Vampire into the Sunlight,it disempowers them completely,bringing them into the market ecomomy weakens them....they made us believe they were all-powerfull within the economic globl dynmic ....but this is an illusion....just deny them legal definitions and all their MONEY is useless.....without the court system helping them they have no power,their money is useless without the courts defending it.The "good people" of the planet TOWER OVER TPTB in terms of economic swing and power,unplug them from the legal system and their trillions become worthless dross,wouldnt it be ironic if their messing with MJ was the catalyst of TPTBs downfall?

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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:48 AM
Its unlawful, violating constitution and common law, to schedule it at all and is one of the herbs, resources, of earth that belong to all creatures great and small naturally, and their medicine that does not require a middle man of any kind, government, doctor or big pharma.

I don't want it classified as medical, just not on any books to begin with.

My friend has cancer, there are 3 types of skin cancer, and she has the worst one and the most aggressive. Its sort of in a weird spot the sun doesnt quite reach, near her ear and hairline, and she has surgery scheduled for next month. Though in an area you cant just take a big chunk out of.

She's been given a vial of the real stuff, and has mostly made it disappear, even indented roots or something out as if its some kind of wart or mole she never had there. They did a biopsy however first to classify it.

Now, she just got the paperwork for medical MJ, and that stuff is watered down, citric BS, and it hasn't worked, so she immediately went and bought the real tar again, and that is working.

The whole concept of having them own our resources, whether it be MJ, and I want to thatch my roof with organic forms of it, I'm so mad at them, because one of the most beneficial medicinal forms requires alot of healthy plant, and that is juicing the entire plant. Not just watered down inneffective versions. They don't own our resources. Anyone complying with rogue agents are criminals and have sold out the human race. And there are other things for pain, natural pain killers that make good tea.


They do not own the resources of earth and we're not under them. They are employees, there to uphold the well being and freedoms of the human race, their boss.

I do NOT stand under them and renounce their illegal rogue activities and any right to write up and make up what they want over our heads. They are null and void and need to be thrown in prison for tyranny. Anyone who stands under evil tyrants has sold out their children's future.
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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 11:03 AM
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It is really fulfilling to see our years of campaigning and spreading truth and facts about this plant finally coming to fruition isn't it?


posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 11:10 AM
Don Young is anything but...

He knows his days are numbered due to all the crass things he's said over the years and people he's offended. He keeps getting re-elected due to Alaska being a red state, and people knowing his name. He's the longest serving congressman but has had all of his power stripped due to being "dirty".

He's co-sponsoring this bill in order to hope he can get re-elected. It's pretty obvious to me what he's doing, especially after he offended all those students over his remarks on suicide:

October 21, 2014 WASILLA -- At a Wasilla High School assembly Tuesday morning, U.S. Rep. Don Young didn’t temper his notoriously abrasive personality for his young audience.

Numerous witnesses say Young, 81, acted in a disrespectful and sometimes offensive manner to some students, used profanity and started talking about bull sex when confronted with a question about same-sex marriage.

Alaska Dispatch News

And then just recently he had a public media snafu about feeding homeless people to wolves...

Alaska Republican Rep. Don Young, famous for his salty tongue and brusque demeanor, suggested Thursday that if he let loose wolves in some congressional districts, they “wouldn’t have a homeless problem anymore.”


“They haven’t got a damn wolf in their whole district,” Young continued. “I’d like to introduce them in your district. If I introduced them in your district, you wouldn’t have a homeless problem anymore.”

Washington Post

The man is looking to pander to his constituents who just recently voted to legalize marijuana. He knows he's going to have a tough time getting re-elected the next time around, and is hoping this might secure him another term. It's pretty obvious why this bill, and why now.
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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 11:29 AM
a reply to: tothetenthpower

You type a bunch of "truth" in the above. I was working in Law Enforcement during 'The Crack War' remember that? When the Urban male (read: Black or 'other') made more $$$ selling the coc aine in "rock" or "crack" and when arrested they were given 20-25 yr. sentences, they are just now getting out of the U.S. prisons. The sub-Urban male (read: White or affluent) they were given "Probation" for using the same drug, but in "powder"...

But "HEADS UP" when 'Uncle Suga' wants to get involved. In 2001 when The Taliban was in charge of Afghanistan, that region supplied 7% of the world's opium, in the 14 years since "The War" that production has ramped up to 84%, so growing opium poppies is EASIER in war, who woulda thunk?

So If You look at the paragraph just above this one... Maybe BigPHarma™ is making enough $$$ on their opiate based meds that they can figure out their return on investment as it relates to cannabis.


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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 12:34 PM
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Here in Maryland, marijuana is decriminalized and cops can't even search your car on the premise they smell weed.

Does that mean employers can no longer do drug tests? I haven't been able to find an answer to that nagging question.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 12:55 PM
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The best answer I've seen so far to that question is yes they are allowed to do drug tests, even in states that have legalized it. The reason for this is because it is still illegal on the federal level and it is usually federal regulations that require the drug test.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 02:27 PM

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The best answer I've seen so far to that question is yes they are allowed to do drug tests, even in states that have legalized it. The reason for this is because it is still illegal on the federal level and it is usually federal regulations that require the drug test.

Realistically, employers will be allowed to test for marijuana no matter what.

Businesses can set whatever rules they want as long as it isn't discriminatory. While most will loosen their MJ policies if it's decriminalized, several old fashioned employers will still enforce an anti-MJ policy.

I have a feeling that, unless a potential employee can produce a prescription for marijuana, it's going to disqualify them from many jobs until recreational MJ becomes so widespread that it's no longer an issue for the majority of employers.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 02:33 PM
a reply to: Answer

Yea. You're probably right and nothing short of outlawing drug tests would probably change that. Though ironically that is infringing on business free practice so in the effort to lessen the penalties for using a legal substance, you infringe on rights again. It's a catch 22 that may just have to play out naturally (though I doubt it will).

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 03:39 PM
Employer drug testing will probably have a more noticeable change in certain industries. For instance Wal-Mart drug tests every employee before hiring. But if you ever worked at a wal-mart, a good lot of their staff take drugs including marijuana and even coc aine on a daily basis, including managers/supervisors. The company knows this, and doesnt really care. I suspect their mandatory drug testing for new hires has more to do with insurance issues than corporate/personal beliefs.

I imagine a place in defense or aerospace industry, and transportation will continue to mandate drug free due to public safety and ell national security.

I would really love to just light one up one day the moment I step out of a building from a stressful day at work and not have to worry about whos going to try and have me arrested because they got nothing better to do.

posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 05:49 PM
a reply to: Answer

Businesses can set whatever rules they want as long as it isn't discriminatory.


If someone is using Prozac, or Antihistamines, or drinks, or smokes, or needs off every Wednesday and Sunday to go to Christ the King Catholic Church, or every Tuesday and Friday to go to dialysis, or becomes pregnant and needs bedrest or less physical work "at speed", or feels compelled to observe Ramadan, or doesn't wear pantyhose or a bra or stiletto heels, who doesn't paint their house beige, or have trimmed shrubbery......or has a car older than 3 years of age, or shops at JCPenney (or, worse - thrift shops!) instead of L.L. Bean or Eddie Bauer or Vera wang...or likes pink, or doesn't own a John Deere lawn tractor, or is shorter than 4-feet-tall, ....

and they are fired, given fewer hours, or paid less, because of any of those circumstances - say, are gay and adopting, or trangender, or born in Africa and nationalized, or a cross-dresser in their spare time,.. or have brown eyes instead of blue eyes, or once had an abortion.........................what is it then? .......


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posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 12:37 AM
About time.

posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 02:37 PM
Why would anyone want to have something like MJ controlled by the government. Dont they already control enough of everything we own and do?

posted on Mar, 26 2015 @ 02:40 PM
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

What will probably happen is that marijuana lobbyists will lobby the government to disallow marijuana drug testing to affect your employment status except in cases where you are intoxicated at work. Though as it stands, there is a very real legal gap that needs addressing in short order.

posted on Mar, 27 2015 @ 01:23 AM

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
i still wonder if it will change prosecution from a misdemeanor to a felony.....

Don't you mean a potential felony prosecution now becoming a misdemeanor charge? Why would this potential reclassification from Schedule 1 to 2 carry a harsher punishment? A couple posters have pondered your query, as well.

posted on Mar, 27 2015 @ 08:34 PM

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

What will probably happen is that marijuana lobbyists will lobby the government to disallow marijuana drug testing to affect your employment status except in cases where you are intoxicated at work. Though as it stands, there is a very real legal gap that needs addressing in short order.

You are making the assumption there is a finding of intoxiction which is dependant on classifiction scheduling and legally framing validating and securing the findings you seem to think are inherant to the issue...

You see there is NO POSSIBILITY OF INTOXICATION from MJ....none....and THIS is a KEY PART OF THE ISSUE TPTB need to put their resources into misrepresenting and controlling.The ONLY WAY they can do this is by bringing MJ and its to date "unclassified" impacts into a courtroom wher ethey cn use their money to set precedents which will eternally favor them.

You see I disagrre with the basic premise tht MJ can in any way "intoxicate you" especially if this is taken in context of how Alcohol "intoxicates you"....which is PRECISELY WHAT TPTB WISH TO fraudulently PARSE MJ AS DOING.

TPTB wish to HITCHHIKE MJ onto alcohols legal and societal they know how to control 100%.

They want to attatch mathamtical values to things so people think these things somehow have an official identity...which they in fact do not.....there may be a % of alcohol in beer you can measure.....but the burden of proof which states you can or have become legally impaired by this % must be concrete...

TPTB want to designate numbers---%s----and identitys to things which SHOULD NOT BE DEFINED BY THIER METHODS..

ZERO DEFINITIONS OR LEGESLATIONS...ZERO. FIGHT THIS WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT.It has been TPTBs long term savings account....dis-enfranchise it.

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