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The Consistent Birther: Donald Trump

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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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As everyone is most likely aware, Donald Trump, who was and still is a very vocal Birther in regards President Obama, has now turned his scrutinizing eye to Senator Ted Cruz and whether his recently declared candidacy and bid for President of the United States is legal based on where and to whom he was born.


"Well he's got, you know, a hurdle that nobody else seems to have at this moment," Trump said during an interview with MyFoxNY. "It's a hurdle, and somebody could certainly look at it very seriously. He was born in Canada, if you know, and when we all studied our history lessons... you're supposed to be born in this country, so I just don't know how the courts would rule on it. But it's an additional hurdle that he has that no one else seems to have." Source


The 'hurdle' Trump refers to is Senator Cruz's birth in Canada to an American mother and a father of Cuban birth with legal emigree status to Canada. From previous deterinations, including the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service who reached a similar conclusion in 2011, Cruz can legally call himself a United States citizen and also run for President:


CRS, Nov. 14, 2011: The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.


As Trump continues to fuel the fire (mostly with his own shoveling as I see no one else postulating that he should run) he makes it clear that he 'hopes' Cruz is eligible with his not even thinly veiled comments. Despite his financial ups and downs, whether you love him or hate him and are a supporter or detractor of Cruz, at least he is consistent in his absurdity. As the election season continues to kick off expect more and more quotable comments from this vocal proponent of the Birther camp and consequent ridicule from those of us with even one functioning brain cell.

 





edit on 24-3-2015 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer




posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm not a fan of Ted Cruz's politics. I don't think I'd like Ted Cruz if I knew him personally. That said, the overwhelming consensus is that being born to an American citizen is all takes to be a natural born citizen for purposes of Article II.

Donald Trump is a boil on the ass of humanity that should be lanced. Why anything he says is newsworthy is even more of a mystery than why Kim Kardashian is a celebrity.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:13 PM
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if Obama can do it......

why not Cruz ????

if I worked at the hospital he was born Id be looking out for bullets if he becomes a contender.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
Donald Trump is a boil on the ass of humanity that should be lanced. Why anything he says is newsworthy is even more of a mystery than why Kim Kardashian is a celebrity.


Frankly I wonder this myself. I think he is one of the most smackable persons on the planet.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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I mean he did read Green Eggs and Ham to his kids on National Television i give him props for that!! a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: IntastellaBurst

Why would anyone have to worry? The Congressional Research Service already determined that Cruz can run for President.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: ATF1886

I recall. I wish Seuss had written a book entitled The Trump in the Dump.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Maybe it has something to do with big asses? She's got one, he is one?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
Maybe it has something to do with big asses? She's got one, he is one?


I kinda just threw up in my mouth thinking of him taking the sex tape route like her.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:24 PM
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Or a Fig for the Wig..a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Well, I guess I'll give him a C for consistency on this one.

I don't agree with ole Donald very often, but this time we seem to be on the same page.

Despite what others here on ATS have sourced as definitions of the term " natural born citizen," I too was taught since grade school that it meant being born on US soil. (Or born to US citizens in territories under US control).

Not that it matters in this particular instance. If it looked like for one second that enough Americans necessary to elect Ted Cruz, would actually support Ted Cruz, we've got much bigger problems than the "natural born citizen" sideshow.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: Flatfish


Not that it matters in this particular instance. If it looked like for one second that enough Americans necessary to elect Ted Cruz, would actually support Ted Cruz, we've got much bigger problems than the "natural born citizen" sideshow


Here Here!



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: Flatfish

The issue of his natural born citizenship seems fairly settled to me, I have not seen a solid dissenting position based on legal precedent. Here is another source besides the above:


Katyal and Clement, March 11: All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.Source



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Donald Trump is a boil on the ass of humanity that should be lanced. Why anything he says is newsworthy is even more of a mystery than why Kim Kardashian is a celebrity.


Frankly I wonder this myself. I think he is one of the most smackable persons on the planet.


I'm being off-topic but I have to give praise to that quote lol.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
I'm being off-topic but I have to give praise to that quote lol.


No worries. I may become a millionaire by setting up a take-a-ticket next to him and letting people have a go for a five spot.

I could retire by next Monday.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 10:54 PM
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It's "Hear, hear!" as in listen up.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

If any of his parents was or is American then he's one of us too. Trump is an idiot savant. He can sell property but he can't understand simple things like this.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: Flatfish

It really doesn't matter a lick what we source as natural born the law states pretty clearly what it is and there's no way to deny that Obama's mother was American. That ends it right there . We really need a hand icon. Silence....
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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: iNobody
It's "Hear, hear!" as in listen up.


Ya know what? I've always wondered about that, as I've never seen it written before, I don't think.

Sometimes I've even written "here hear". lol. or 'hear here". (to cover the bases).

It makes you realize why English as a second language can be so problematic!

So 'hear hear' it is!



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

I really think it is more Trump grandstanding and trying to get media play than anything else.



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