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originally posted by: tadaman
Thank you to the representatives who spearheaded this. You have proven us delightfully wrong about "everyone in government".
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
well I was a little optimistic. I know. I cant help but cheer up over good news. I know deep down inside that nothing much will change but a force for good is always somewhere in the mix. It may be an underdog but I wont lose faith that things will be made better. I wont give up on that one guy sitting in a government job just biding his time until he can do the good he has in his heart. HE has my undying loyalty and respect.
Who knows. Maybe this will get passed and the false flag to follow will be stopped by a random trucker from north Carolina dozing off at the wheel and slamming into a limo carrying the key conspirators on their way to say "go". LOL
Something. Who knows....All it takes is one mistake and an ever vigilant person in the right place and time to react.
I will stay faithfully optimistic, if nothing happens, I will be defiantly optimistic.
Something has got to give.
Have a good one.
Hold it down.
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
From cursory inspection, it seems this doesn't repeal the entire Patriot Act. It doesn't have anything to do with indefinite detentions in places like GITMO, drone strikes, or eavesdropping on allies. It seems to basically make sure that your email and text messages are private here at home.
The BIG problem and elephant in the room no one is addressing has to with all the programs and agencies that have sprung up around and because of the Patriot Act. These things can't just "go away". Are we getting rid of body scanners and the TSA?
I'm glad people are talking, but this is nothing more than a publicity stunt and a neutered bill to garner votes.
SEC. 2. REPEAL OF USA PATRIOT ACT.
(a) Repeal- The USA PATRIOT Act (Public Law 107-56) is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.
(b) Destruction of Certain Information- The Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General shall destroy any information collected under the USA PATRIOT Act (Public Law 107-56) and the amendments made by such Act, as in effect the day before the date of the enactment of this Act, concerning a United States person that is not related to an investigation that is actively ongoing on such date.
originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: machineintelligence
your dreaming if you think the nsa and cia and fbi are going to roll back any of the security measures.
Frankly, judging from the way Americans like to massacre each other and butcher people in far away lands - i think these kinds of laws are nessecary
originally posted by: Wolfenz
As I said before ..
All I See the Patriot Act as ..
These Two Acts Combined ... a Update...
Enabling Act of 1933 ( Nazi Germany )
International Security Act of 1950 ( Communism, McCarthyism, aka Red Scare House Un-American Activities Committee)
( instead of Communist it's Replaced with Terrorist )
IT Caused This Dont Forget !
originally posted by: JAY1980
It was bipartisan support that brought the patriot act to life in the first place!
It was bipartisan support that got it renewed in 2006!
And again in 2011!
Now they repeal it!?!
This all sounds awfully familiar.
Sorry to sound pessimistic here but it all seems like a ploy to either get votes or distract from something else.
Mustn't forget most of these people supported this bill whole heartedly for the last 14 years!
Every time the two sides agree on something it's usually the worst for us. The average tax paying American citizen. In this case it will most likely fall flat, and it's being used to manipulate or misdirect us in some way shape or form.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: greencmp
No arguments from me.
I originally supported the Patriot Act if for no other reason than that spying on U.S. citizens was occurring anyway.
The means apparently was using Canadian, British and Australian agencies to do the spying for us and visa versa then exchange the information amongst themselves.
Unless that loophole is closed, this act will be easily circumvented.....